On 14/11/2024 9:39 am, Jan Beulich wrote:
> On 13.11.2024 14:32, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>> On 13/11/2024 1:31 pm, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>>> On 13/11/2024 8:01 am, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 13.11.2024 01:24, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>>>>> On 12/11/2024 3:00 pm, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>> While result values and other status flags are unaffected as long as we
>>>>>> can ignore the case of registers having their upper 32 bits non-zero
>>>>>> outside of 64-bit mode, EFLAGS.SF may obtain a wrong value when we
>>>>>> mistakenly re-execute the original insn with VEX.W set.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note that the memory access, if any, is correctly carried out as 32-bit
>>>>>> regardless of VEX.W.
>>>>> I don't understand why this is true.
>>>> This talks about the access to guest memory, which is op_bytes based.
>>>> And op_bytes determination handles VEX.W correctly afaics. I've added
>>>> "guest" near the start of the sentence for clarification.
>>> Ah - that makes things much clearer.
>>>
>>> I had neglected to consider the access to guest memory.
>>>
>>> In addition to a "guest" earlier, I'd suggest having a new paragraph at
>>> this point, and ...
>>>
>>>>> If we write out a VEX.W=1 form of BEXTR/etc and emulate while in 64bit
>>>>> mode, it will have an operand size of 64.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can believe that ...
>>>>>
>>>>>>  Internal state also isn't leaked, as the field the
>>>>>> memory value is read into (which is then wrongly accessed as a 64-bit
>>>>>> quantity when executing the stub) is pre-initialized to zero.
>>> ... this reading:
>>>
>>> "The emulator-local memory operand will be accessed as a 64-bit
>>> quantity, but it is pre-initialised to zero so no internal state an leak"
>>>
>>> or similar.
> That's to _replace_ the "Internal state ..." sentence then, rather than an
> added separate sentence / paragraph? It says exactly the same, after all.

Ideally, yes.  I think it's clearer this way around.

~Andrew

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