I think I even remember using a tool from the WiX toolkit to extract some registry information we needed from a file. I think it was Tallow.
-----Original Message----- From: Christopher Painter [mailto:chr...@deploymentengineering.com] Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:07 PM To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'; Blair Subject: Re: [WiX-users] FW: InstallShield 2010 vs InstallAware 9 Glad to see we all agree. I thought the original question was to show where WiX was different then InstallShield and that's what I thought I did. No matter. Course I guess we could argue they are the same also since I have on more then one occasion used WiX to build a registry table for the COM and then transplant that into InstallShield. :-) We tend to go out of our way to avoid resilency issues because our users tend to be in places in the world where they really don't ever want to be asked for a disc. :-) --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Blair <os...@live.com> wrote: > From: Blair <os...@live.com> > Subject: RE: [WiX-users] FW: InstallShield 2010 vs InstallAware 9 > To: chr...@deploymentengineering.com, "'General discussion for Windows > Installer XML toolset.'" <wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 11:32 AM > I don't advocate changing that > default behavior (the default is correct in > my opinion), and I agree with Rob (and you) on that point > as well. But, the > point is that for those that need it, it is there and > easily accessible. The > question was whether WiX supported the scenarios presented, > not on whether > the technologies were the right ones to employ. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher Painter [mailto:chr...@deploymentengineering.com] > > Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 5:06 AM > To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML > toolset.'; Blair > Subject: RE: [WiX-users] FW: InstallShield 2010 vs > InstallAware 9 > > But why would you change the default behaior? This an > area where WiX excels > over InstallShield. > > I'm not sure what I hate more, COM or unexpected > repairs caused my wonky > MSI COM advertisement functionality. > > For once, Rob and I agree on something: > > http://robmensching.com/blog/posts/2007/3/12/RobMens-Recommendation-Do-not-a > dvertise-COM-information-in-MSI > > --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Blair <os...@live.com> > wrote: > > > From: Blair <os...@live.com> > > Subject: RE: [WiX-users] FW: InstallShield 2010 > vs InstallAware 9 > > To: chr...@deploymentengineering.com, > "'General discussion for Windows > Installer XML toolset.'" <wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > > Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 10:46 PM > > WiX allows the use of either the COM > > tables or the Registry table and > > exposes both easily enough, but the default preference > in > > the toolset is for > > the Registry tables. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Christopher Painter [mailto:chr...@deploymentengineering.com] > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:51 AM > > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML > toolset. > > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] FW: InstallShield 2010 vs > > InstallAware 9 > > > > The biggest difference between InstallShield and WiX > in > > registration ( > > assuming you follow best practices and don't use > SelfReg / > > CA's ) is the > > use of the registry tables in WiX versus certain COM > tables > > in > > InstallShield. > > > > Both tools have the capability to extract COM from > dll's > > and it's a bit of a > > spooky process with both sometimes. For me I > > have the ability to use a > > number of extraction tools and profiling tools when > it > > doesn't work to > > ultimately get the right answer on what the COM should > be > > and from there I > > can author that information in either tool. > > All said, they are both good > > but I like WiX a little bit better in it's use of the > > registry table. > > > > > > Christopher Painter, Author of Deployment Engineering > Blog > > Have a hot tip, know a secret or read a really good > thread > > that deserves > > attention? E-Mail Me > > > > > > --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Matt Walker <matt.wal...@synergis.com> > > wrote: > > > > > From: Matt Walker <matt.wal...@synergis.com> > > > Subject: [WiX-users] FW: InstallShield 2010 vs > > InstallAware 9 > > > To: "General discussion for Windows Installer > XML > > toolset." > > <wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > > > Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 12:38 PM > > > One of the big issues I've had with > > > InstallShield and other products is > > > proper registration of files. Most of the time > this > > > area was OK, but > > > there were times when one or two files would not > > register > > > causing me to > > > create Custom Actions to do so. > > > > > > How would this be handled in WiX and is it > reliable? > > > > > > *** > > > > > > I wonder what conversion time would be like to > switch > > to > > > WiX after being > > > used to InstallShield/Wise for all these years. > > > > > > I'm planning a rebuild of all of our installs > > regardless of > > > the product > > > selected anyway, but I wonder what the WiX > learning > > curve > > > is like. > > > > > > What are some of the requirements or necessities > for > > > becoming an adept > > > WiX user? > > > > > > *** > > > > > > What about Web and IIS Stuff - go to go/easy > with > > WiX? > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Matt Walker > > > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 1:18 PM > > > To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer > XML > > > toolset.' > > > Subject: RE: [WiX-users] InstallShield 2010 vs > > InstallAware > > > 9 > > > > > > Is there any kind of UI with WiX? I like > > > InstallShield because it takes > > > care of he nuts and bolts for you yet allows > tweaking > > where > > > needed. > > > > > > Is WiX scripting based or should you be a heavy > duty > > > developer to use > > > it? > > > > > > I guess I can download and take a look. > > > > > > Any further info on this or the IS 2010 Vs IA 9 > > comparison > > > is more than > > > welcomed. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Brian Simoneau [mailto:bsimon...@freedomscientific.com] > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 12:06 PM > > > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML > > toolset. > > > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] InstallShield 2010 vs > > InstallAware > > > 9 > > > > > > My company was using InstallShield before > switching > > to > > > WiX. I have > > > never used InstallAware, but the only advice I > can > > give is > > > to use WiX. > > > It's free and can do anything that the > commercial > > products > > > do, sometimes > > > better. > > > > > > -Brian Simoneau > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Matt Walker [mailto:matt.wal...@synergis.com] > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:10 AM > > > To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > > Subject: [WiX-users] InstallShield 2010 vs > > InstallAware 9 > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm new to the group and was pointed here by an > > individual > > > from whom > > > I've received valuable assistance on many .NET, > > install > > > related topics > > > over the past several years. I know this is a > Wix > > > users group, but I'm > > > hoping someone can give me some insight, > guidance, > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > We as a company are looking to switch our > install > > build > > > product. The > > > company whose product we use has undergone > several > > company > > > takeovers/changes recently and it doesn't look > like > > the > > > development > > > effort is there for this particular product. > > > > > > > > > > > > We've been focusing on InstallShield 2010 and > > InstallAware > > > 9. I've used > > > InstallShield products in the past and never > really > > had any > > > major > > > problems to speak of. IS seemed fairly easy to > use > > > and suited all of > > > our needs. This seems to be the case with > > > InstallShield 2010. > > > > > > > > > > > > InstallAware is a tool of a different kind as it > > appears to > > > be primarily > > > script based but does have a Visual interface as > > > well. It might be > > > because I could be subconsciously hooked on > > InstallShield, > > > but > > > InstallAware seems cumbersome to me. 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