Rob Mensching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 2.  I used to be one of those Office developers (long while back)
 > and know a few of them that are still there.  They have a pretty
> solid grasp of the Windows Installer and how to use it and,
> personally, I think they've done pretty well by it.  Of course, I am
> biased because I often point at Office as a team that follows many of
> the setup development best practices.  They have distributed setup
> development across their whole organization.  They fight to minimize
> custom actions and (I think) have eradicated SelfReg.  They are
> attempting upgrades and patching before their first Beta.  Things like
> that go a long way toward getting the installation for your product
> right and trust me Office is one complex install.  <smile/> 
Well I'm pretty sure that office setup may well be the Mt. Everest for
deploment programmers, besided the whole server stuff from
MS. Howerver I found this also:
http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=2926168&SiteID=1
the SDK people surely are not the dumbest programmers around but what
does it help. You can be smart as no-one else, you' get outperformed
by the resourcefullness MSI Developers. They are that smart that they
even can not follow there smartness over time ... ;-(

>
>
> PS:  I always find it interesting when people talk about "Microsoft"
 > as one single entity.  Microsoft is a company made up of a great
> many smaller organizations that all contribute into some larger
> business group.  It is only the fact that those business groups report
> their earnings as a single entity that there is a thing called
> Microsoft.  <smile/>  I have found it far more productive to go
> address concerns with the appropriate small organizations that deliver
> the particular technology than to blame Microsoft as a whole. 
That may work for you, but if you are to get at someone responsible
from the outside you surly have to be very very patient. And finding
phone numbers to get nearer to whom you like is a sport in itself 

I'm sorry, but Microsoft does try very hard to make development for
their platforms more difficult and more difficult. Vista has
especially advanced very much, if something failed you got a 
"You've some error" not the sligthest hint what may be broken, you
then are forced to use some tool like Procmon (funny enough bought by
MS) to go figuring. 

I could go on with other areaa, but I'm way too off-topic here and so
I better stop.

Regards
Friedrich

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