To be fair, in most cases to use Commons for uploading files is totally unproblematic as soon as one has basic understanding of copyright. I am pretty sure 99% of my uploads can not be deleted (I had my files mass-nominated for deletion, once with the claim they are not mine, and once with the claim they are holiday photos and out of scope, but both cases admins were reasonably enough to speedy close the nominations). Of course there are always potentially problematic cases, for example I can imagine for one could start requiring "publication" dates for painting, which is copyright paranoia but some people take it seriously etc. But if one uploads something sufficiently far from the grey area it normally should be ok.
(I am still a Commons admin, but I reduced my admin activity to a minimum and I am not planning to increase the activity level). Best Yaroslav On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 3:12 PM Ziko van Dijk <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Alessandro, > Thank you for your post and its insight. I recognized the same with me: I > only make use of Wikimedia Commons in lessons if I have enough time. Also I > would introduce it only to students with a solid knowledge of English. > > > Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l <[email protected]> > schrieb am Mo. 18. Mai 2020 um 13:08: > > > In the end, it's more like inducing order from other projects than caring > > about the order on Commons because there clearly can't be with people > > acting the way they do. > > > This is a great observation! And this phenomenon contributes to the > on-going chaos, to the work-around-culture you need to adapt to if you want > to make use of Wikimedia Commons. :-( > > Kind regards > Ziko > > > > > They are also not caring for it: if you spend your time starting > > unnecessary deletion procedures instead of cleaning up categories or > > description, you obviously have your priority, so we also have ours. > > > > > About the main page, we need to focus more on media files IMHO, and of > > course search is complicated but I am sure metadata can improve it. > > > > A. > > Il lunedì 18 maggio 2020, 11:33:46 CEST, Robert Myers < > > [email protected]> ha scritto: > > > > Well some people do, but it is when they get trolled by other > contributors > > and/or overzealous Admin comes along and deletes the file. They quickly > > lose interest, in turn telling other people not to bother. > > > > I just had another lot of photographs tagged by a troll, in which an > Admin > > deletes ( > > > > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=File:Rachel_Priest_after_the_Sydney_Thunder_vs_Adelaide_Strikers_WBBL_game_at_Robertson_Oval.jpg > > > > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=File:Abandoned_farm_house_in_Hillgrove_01.jpg > > ). > > These have been on Commons for two + years, using the same camera gear I > > have used over the years. If it is enough for me to give up on the > project, > > it would be the same for any other user but for a newbie it is something > > that would make me run for the hills (depart quickly as possible)! > > > > On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 1:07 PM Benjamin Ikuta <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Anecdotally, it seems people sometimes don't upload their photos to > > > Commons because they don't realize that the scope of Commons is much > > > broader than that of Wikipedia. > > > > > > Has there been, or should there be, any research into this, or why > people > > > don't contribute more broadly? > > > > > > ~Benjamin > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > New messages to: [email protected] > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Robert Myers > > Secretary - Wikimedia Australia > > M: +61 400 670 288 > > [email protected] > > http://www.wikimedia.org.au > > > > Wikimedia Australia Inc. is an independent charitable organisation which > > supports the efforts of the Wikimedia Foundation in Australia. 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