Despite everything, Anders, it is inappropriate for staff to publicly prosecute Lila. The board is aware of the many issues, quite a few not yet public on any forum. And it is for the board to solve.
A. On Feb 20, 2016 8:20 PM, "Anders Wennersten" <[email protected]> wrote: > Reading an following this thread makes me feel profoundly sad. And the > symptoms indicates for me that there is indeed something "rotten" going on. > > I feel deep sympathy for staff whose pain is seems to go very deep, and I > would really want to help out to to ease the problems if it was in my > capability. > > But there is as Risker puts it a deep information asymmetry in this thread. > > I am sitting far away from the SF office and have no direct contact with > staff and even if I read of the pain, I do not catch any concrete facts > what it is all about. The handling of Knowledge engine has not been good, > but it can be remedied. The Board is not optimal and perfect, but the > members are clever and loyal to our mission and I have no reason to doubt > that they will take care of things on their "table", even if somewhat > slower pace then people would want. > > And even if I feel and sympathize with the frustration of staff I would > like to ask the inputs to this thread to be more factual and also show the > respect of each others as we are used to in our daily Wikipedia dialogues. > > Anders > With sympathy and love to all involved in this crisis > > > > > > > > Den 2016-02-21 kl. 04:58, skrev Oliver Keyes: > >> Just staff and former staff? Huh. You must be reading >> >> wikimedia-that-doesn't-include-liam-fae-former-board-members-or-almost-anyone-else-l. >> What's it like there? >> >> To Risker's point; "don't beat up on people who have less information >> than you" is a good principle. But so is "don't call people >> incompetent when the alternative is that you're missing something". >> Speaking as both a volunteer and staff, Anthony, I have found your >> attitude in this conversation and others on the subject to be deeply >> unproductive. It would be good if you spent more time asking questions >> and less time dismissing people's concerns. >> >> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 9:39 PM, Anthony Cole <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Ah, Brandon. Thanks for writing me off as "the folks at Wikipediocracy." >>> I'm also the folks at en.Wikipedia and the folks on the board of >>> WikiProject Med Foundation. And I give a shit about Wikipedia. >>> >>> This push for the removal of the ED is coming from staff. And failed >>> staff. >>> If you want support from the wider editor community, you'll need to bring >>> us with you. I'm making it clear to you that presently you haven't done >>> that yet. Maybe you don't need to. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, 21 February 2016, Brandon Harris <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Danny, don't kid yourself! The folks at Wikipediocracy know >>>> everything about everything that's happened at the Foundation and about >>>> everything that will EVER happen. They've never been wrong, ever! >>>> >>>> I don't understand why we're still talking about this! >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 20, 2016, at 5:29 PM, Danny Horn <[email protected] >>>>> >>>> <javascript:;>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> You know, it's possible that the people who work for the Foundation >>>>> might >>>>> understand the situation in a more nuanced way than you do. I know it >>>>> doesn't seem likely, but dare to dream. >>>>> >>>> --- >>>> Brandon Harris :: [email protected] <javascript:;> :: made of steel >>>> wool >>>> and whiskey >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >>>> New messages to: [email protected] <javascript:;> >>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >>>> <mailto:[email protected] <javascript:;> >>>> ?subject=unsubscribe> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Anthony Cole >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >>> New messages to: [email protected] >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >>> <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >> New messages to: [email protected] >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
