In fact the rabbit whole goes far far deeper down the rabbit hole :P Seddon
On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 12:42 AM, Joseph Seddon <[email protected]> wrote: > SarahSV, the rabbit whole goes far far beyond "mistaken ideas about the > Knowledge Engine". > > Seddon > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 12:36 AM, SarahSV <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 5:16 PM, James Alexander <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> It is probably best for me not to get into a long count/counterpoint here >> but I couldn't avoid not responding at all. >> >> James, several staffers have talked about feeling unappreciated and >> demoralized. >> But that's how quite a few WMF staff made us feel before Lila arrived. >> WMF-community relations couldn't have been worse. It certainly looks from >> the outside as though Lila fixed a lot of that. >> >> The question now is how we move forward, with no more casualties. >> >> The best thing is surely for WMF staff to help Lila weather this storm, >> which seems to have blown up around mistaken ideas about the Knowledge >> Engine proposal. >> >> In the longer term we need to brainstorm about how to manage >> Foundation-community relations. Lila wanted to speak to the community >> earlier about the Knowledge Engine grant, but was afraid to. Why was that? >> A lot of the community's suspicion of change stems from us feeling we >> could >> be separated from our work at any minute. That conservatism causes a lot >> of >> frustration within the WMF. How can it be fixed? >> >> Does the Board give enough support to the ED and leadership to the rest of >> us? Can something be put in place within the WMF to help staffers so that >> things like this don't blow up in public? We also ought to discuss asking >> the WMF to become a membership organization with different bylaws so that >> we really do elect the Board. >> >> These are the discussions that will move us forward, because the real >> problem here is not about individuals. It is about structure. >> >> Sarah >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >> New messages to: [email protected] >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> >> > > > > -- > Seddon > > *Advancement Associate (Community Engagement)* > *Wikimedia Foundation* > -- Seddon *Advancement Associate (Community Engagement)* *Wikimedia Foundation* _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
