I have on 4 occassions put forward Perth WA bids, including for 2017, 2018
and 2019, my response was purely to highlight that information being put
forward in this email thread that was incorrect and later praise  as nice
to facts being presented.  NO intention of usurping this thread. I'm well
aware of what it takes to host such a large event.

I know what the significance being able to attend a Wikimania is and feel
for those who are having visa problems

On 27 July 2017 at 14:34, Lodewijk <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Gnagarra,
>
> if you want to make a proposal to host wikimania - please do. There's a
> whole package of things to consider though, not just visa.
>
> Otherwise, I think it is mostly distractingin this contest to hear people
> 'brag' about their own country's visa policy. If that is a topic you want
> to start, I suggest you branch off the discussion, into something like
> 'visa in my country are super easy'.
> (and this is equally valid for all other people from other countries that
> like to share about their visa policies)
>
> Best,
> Lodewijk
>
> On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 2:09 AM, Gnangarra <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Unfair to say Australia is the least friendly country as the Australian
>> Customs and Border protection has a whole dedicated process for conferences
>> https://www.border.gov.au/Busi/Trav/Conf that enable processing of visa
>> regardless of country by the organisors.   That over 100 countries can
>> apply electronically for a visitor visa with most applications process
>> within 72 hours  but what would I know having only worked in the tourism
>> industry for 30 years that couldnt be found out by putting poor research om
>> 3rd party sites as facts.
>>
>> On 3 July 2017 at 06:03, Mykola Kozlenko <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> For the sake of the discussion on "it's way better in my country",
>>> please look what your country's visa policy really is. For instance, check
>>> https://www.passportindex.org/byWelcomingRank.php or relative (English)
>>> Wikipedia articles. The former gives the following figures:
>>> (Five latest Wikimania hosts)
>>> * Canada: 51 country can enter visa-free, visa on arrival, ETA or
>>> equivalent
>>> * Mexico: 67
>>> * UK: 91
>>> * Italy: 93
>>> * Hong Kong: 144
>>> (Some other countries mentioned here)
>>> * Australia: 34
>>> * Thailand: 78
>>> * Israel: 96
>>>
>>> Yes, that means that Canada is the least visa-friendly Wikimania host in
>>> the last 5 years. And yes, Thailand is less visa-friendly than the UK. And
>>> yes, Australia is the least visa-friendly country with an established
>>> Wikimedia chapter.
>>>
>>> Thus please do refer to facts when qualifying a country as a
>>> visa-friendly or not, and not to your own perception of a country's visa
>>> policy.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Mykola (NickK)
>>>
>>> --- Оригінальне повідомлення ---
>>> Від кого: "DaB." <[email protected]>
>>> Дата: 2 липня 2017, 23:19:44
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> Am 02.07.2017 um 13:37 schrieb cs:
>>> >  a country like  Thailand where I  live
>>>
>>> you mean a country which is currently a military dictatorship (for the
>>> second time in 10 years)? A country that was THIS close to a open civil
>>> war? And if not a civil war, maybe a real war with Cambodia?
>>>
>>> Visa problems are problematic, but it is 10 times better than to give
>>> the Wikimania to an instable country – we are not the FIFA.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> DaB.
>>>
>>>
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