Number of countries that can enter a country without visa is not a good
measurement for a country being visa-friendly. Let's use your example. Per
what you said it seems Israel is a more visa friendly country than Italy
which is not correct. It's correct Israel allows more people to visit
without visa but 1- For a handful number of countries visiting Israel is
not an option at all (like mine which has twenty years in jail when I come
back) 2- if we pass that point, they are really difficult on giving visa to
Muslim/Arab countries passport holders. 3- The border control is very harsh
and can deny entry on strange reasons even with valid visa or passport of a
not-visa-needed country. What you just need is to look slightly non-Western
and they give you hell in border. It happened in a recent Wikimedia event.

Best

On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 2:33 AM Mykola Kozlenko <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> For the sake of the discussion on "it's way better in my country", please
> look what your country's visa policy really is. For instance, check
> https://www.passportindex.org/byWelcomingRank.php or relative (English)
> Wikipedia articles. The former gives the following figures:
> (Five latest Wikimania hosts)
> * Canada: 51 country can enter visa-free, visa on arrival, ETA or
> equivalent
> * Mexico: 67
> * UK: 91
> * Italy: 93
> * Hong Kong: 144
> (Some other countries mentioned here)
> * Australia: 34
> * Thailand: 78
> * Israel: 96
>
> Yes, that means that Canada is the least visa-friendly Wikimania host in
> the last 5 years. And yes, Thailand is less visa-friendly than the UK. And
> yes, Australia is the least visa-friendly country with an established
> Wikimedia chapter.
>
> Thus please do refer to facts when qualifying a country as a visa-friendly
> or not, and not to your own perception of a country's visa policy.
>
> Thanks
> Mykola (NickK)
>
> --- Оригінальне повідомлення ---
> Від кого: "DaB." <[email protected]>
> Дата: 2 липня 2017, 23:19:44
>
> Hello,
> Am 02.07.2017 um 13:37 schrieb cs:
> >  a country like  Thailand where I  live
>
> you mean a country which is currently a military dictatorship (for the
> second time in 10 years)? A country that was THIS close to a open civil
> war? And if not a civil war, maybe a real war with Cambodia?
>
> Visa problems are problematic, but it is 10 times better than to give
> the Wikimania to an instable country – we are not the FIFA.
>
> Sincerely,
> DaB.
>
>
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