No problem. :) Joe
On Mon, 5 Oct 2015 at 22:52 Reem Al-Kashif <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi joe, > > Thanks for you reply ^_^ I get it now. > > Best, > Reem > > On 5 October 2015 at 23:38, Joseph Fox <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I think Iolanda means that, even though Ghana and Senegal are both in >> Africa, the cost of travelling from one to the other is still very >> high—probably too expensive for many people. >> >> Joe >> >> On Mon, 5 Oct 2015 at 21:08 Reem Al-Kashif <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Iolanda, >>> >>> This is Reem from Egypt. Thank you for your email. I'm silently >>> following the threads of emails about this. But would you please explain to >>> me what do you mean by the following: >>> >>> let’s be very clear: if the event is in Ghana, this does not mean that >>>> it is possible for a person from Senegal to afford his/her trip. >>> >>> I'm not sure I understand why (maybe something is lost in translation as >>> I'm a non-native speaker of EN) ^_^ >>> >>> Best, >>> Reem >>> >>> On 5 October 2015 at 18:58, Iolanda Pensa <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> dear all >>>> the rotation we have set for Wikimania guarantees that at least once >>>> every three years we do not pick the easiest, cheapest and safest location. >>>> >>>> The reality is that US-Canada and Europe are the easiest and cheapest >>>> locations. Well, with Esino Lario we have done our best to assure some >>>> complexities, but in general organizing wikimania in Asia, Latin America, >>>> Africa and Australia is more challenging and more expensive for people who >>>> have the money to pay their travel to travel there (let’s be very clear: if >>>> the event is in Ghana, this does not mean that it is possible for a person >>>> from Senegal to afford his/her trip. If the event is in Europe, US and >>>> Canada it is much more likely that a person from there can afford his/her >>>> trip. Australia is an exception in many ways but in general it is expensive >>>> for the majority of the partcipants). >>>> >>>> I personally believe the real criteria to choose where to host >>>> Wikimania should be a positive impact. If organizing Wikimania in a >>>> location can bring resources (volunteers, brains, fundings, content...), >>>> boost projects, involve communities it does make sense to organize it there >>>> even if it is much more expensive than in other location. I personally >>>> believe our goal should not be to put our flag in a new location but to >>>> make the best impact where Wikimania takes place. And let’s get ready to >>>> invest more (money, time, difficulties) if it makes sense. >>>> >>>> Wikimania needs to change its selection process. My experience (and the >>>> experience of others) is that the current system is not a healthy system. >>>> We are putting teams one against the other and hurting people we do not >>>> want to hurt: we want everyone to win and to be involved in different >>>> capacities in the Wikimedia projects and in Wikimania. >>>> >>>> Montreal has been chosen because it is a very good site, with a very >>>> good team, a safe place, and for the first time in a francophone >>>> location; by selecting as rapidly as possible the venue for 2017 we provide >>>> the Montreal team enough time to prepare the event and we have time >>>> ourselves to discuss and establish a new process. >>>> >>>> The committee has met twice in the past three months and we were >>>> getting ready to announce the news. The delays are never positive and it is >>>> good that the topic is now at the centre of discussions. please do >>>> contribute to the process and the discussion about it also on meta to make >>>> sure its more easily recorded and accessible >>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_selection_process >>>> iolanda / iopensa >>>> member of the Wikimania Committee and volunteer for Wikimania Esino >>>> Lario >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimania-l mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> *Kind regards,Reem Al-Kashif* >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimania-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimania-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >> >> > > > -- > > *Kind regards,Reem Al-Kashif* > _______________________________________________ > Wikimania-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >
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