(I mean in terms of applying for and receiving visas, sorry if that wasn't
clear.)

*Joseph Fox*
enwp.org/user:foxj

On 4 October 2015 at 22:42, Joseph Fox <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 4 October 2015 at 22:01, aude <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I am not convinced this is a good idea, given this definition of regions.
>>
>> Eastern Europe should definitely be considered along with western,
>> southern, ...  It is pretty cheap to travel there from elsewhere in europe,
>> probably venue + accommodations are cheaper, and most important we have
>> significant communities there with track record of organising regional
>> conferences.
>> I would also be tempted to include north Africa and middle east with
>> europe. (after all, the next European hackathon is being held in Israel)
>>
>> I also think having wikimania in Canada + US every three years is too
>> often. The visa process for the US is hugely annoying, difficult and
>> results in excluding attendees.
>>
>> Also, while great and important to have wmf support for wikimania, imho
>> it is important that ultimate leadership for wikimania each year is from
>> volunteers. I am not sure the volunteer community in the US + Canada has
>> this capacity to be lead organizer every three years. Maybe once every four
>> years is reasonable, imho.
>>
>> Also, stuff like accommodations tends to be a bit expensive in the US
>> compared to elsewhere, and flights within north America (especially Canada)
>> are also somewhat pricey in my experience.
>>
> ​Likewise, accommodation in western, northern and southern Europe is also
> pretty expensive.
>
> I'll agree that having US/Canada hold the conference every three years is
> a bad idea for the community, even if convenient for the WMF and their
> staff.
>
>> Cheers,
>> Katie
>>
>> Beyond the first two areas, we may not visit some as often as others. (I
>> have not listed Antarctica as an area to which we will rotate, which may
>> well be a disappointment to members of the British Antarctic Survey and
>> others in that location.)
>> >
>> >
>> > More widely, we would like to encourage Wikimedia conferences as open,
>> engaging and fun community meetups, alongside the annual Wikimania
>> conference. I know that several chapters run country-specific conferences
>> each year, which is a good move. I think that there should be at least one
>> annual Wikimedia conference in each of these areas. This would help newer
>> editors know that there are people like them nearby without requiring the
>> existence of, or putting too great a demand on, every national chapter or
>> other local affiliated body. In some areas like Africa where the distances
>> are great, multiple regional conferences may make sense.
>> >
>> >
>> > As part of the new system of location selection, we will no longer have
>> a 'bidding' process. Instead, the Committee invites people interested in
>> leading or helping to run a Wikimania to contact us on-wiki, or via the
>> wikimania-l list. If you think that you know a great team, venue or concept
>> for holding Wikimania, in your area or anywhere else, please discuss the
>> possibilities with us. We will work with interested community members to
>> narrow down the selection to a particular venue.
>> >
>> >
>> > Our next few locations will thus go like this:
>> >
>> >
>> > * 2016: Western, Northern, and Southern Europe – Esino Lario in Italy
>> >
>> > * 2017: Canada and United States – TBD
>> >
>> > * 2018: TBD – TBD
>> >
>> > * 2019: Western, Northern, and Southern Europe – TBD
>> >
>> > * 2020: Canada and United States – TBD
>> >
>> > * 2021: TBD – TBD
>> >
>> >
>> > As you can see, as well as picking the 2017 venue in Canada or the
>> United States, for which we have a candidate lined up, we need to select
>> very quickly the area for 2018, and after that, 2019 and beyond. There are
>> several areas we’ve outlined above that have never had a Wikimania, and
>> others where we have not visited for some time. We would love your thoughts
>> on the areas on which we should focus for 2018 and beyond. We’ll also be
>> asking in future for your thoughts about how to structure the programme of
>> each Wikimania to make it as good as it can be for you, for others, and for
>> our community overall.
>> >
>> >
>> > Thank you.
>> >
>> >
>> > Yours,
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > James D. Forrester
>> >
>> > Chair, Wikimania Committee
>> >
>> >
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