On 4 October 2015 at 22:01, aude <[email protected]> wrote:

> I am not convinced this is a good idea, given this definition of regions.
>
> Eastern Europe should definitely be considered along with western,
> southern, ...  It is pretty cheap to travel there from elsewhere in europe,
> probably venue + accommodations are cheaper, and most important we have
> significant communities there with track record of organising regional
> conferences.
> I would also be tempted to include north Africa and middle east with
> europe. (after all, the next European hackathon is being held in Israel)
>
> I also think having wikimania in Canada + US every three years is too
> often. The visa process for the US is hugely annoying, difficult and
> results in excluding attendees.
>
> Also, while great and important to have wmf support for wikimania, imho it
> is important that ultimate leadership for wikimania each year is from
> volunteers. I am not sure the volunteer community in the US + Canada has
> this capacity to be lead organizer every three years. Maybe once every four
> years is reasonable, imho.
>
> Also, stuff like accommodations tends to be a bit expensive in the US
> compared to elsewhere, and flights within north America (especially Canada)
> are also somewhat pricey in my experience.
>
​Likewise, accommodation in western, northern and southern Europe is also
pretty expensive.

I'll agree that having US/Canada hold the conference every three years is a
bad idea for the community, even if convenient for the WMF and their staff.

> Cheers,
> Katie
>
> Beyond the first two areas, we may not visit some as often as others. (I
> have not listed Antarctica as an area to which we will rotate, which may
> well be a disappointment to members of the British Antarctic Survey and
> others in that location.)
> >
> >
> > More widely, we would like to encourage Wikimedia conferences as open,
> engaging and fun community meetups, alongside the annual Wikimania
> conference. I know that several chapters run country-specific conferences
> each year, which is a good move. I think that there should be at least one
> annual Wikimedia conference in each of these areas. This would help newer
> editors know that there are people like them nearby without requiring the
> existence of, or putting too great a demand on, every national chapter or
> other local affiliated body. In some areas like Africa where the distances
> are great, multiple regional conferences may make sense.
> >
> >
> > As part of the new system of location selection, we will no longer have
> a 'bidding' process. Instead, the Committee invites people interested in
> leading or helping to run a Wikimania to contact us on-wiki, or via the
> wikimania-l list. If you think that you know a great team, venue or concept
> for holding Wikimania, in your area or anywhere else, please discuss the
> possibilities with us. We will work with interested community members to
> narrow down the selection to a particular venue.
> >
> >
> > Our next few locations will thus go like this:
> >
> >
> > * 2016: Western, Northern, and Southern Europe – Esino Lario in Italy
> >
> > * 2017: Canada and United States – TBD
> >
> > * 2018: TBD – TBD
> >
> > * 2019: Western, Northern, and Southern Europe – TBD
> >
> > * 2020: Canada and United States – TBD
> >
> > * 2021: TBD – TBD
> >
> >
> > As you can see, as well as picking the 2017 venue in Canada or the
> United States, for which we have a candidate lined up, we need to select
> very quickly the area for 2018, and after that, 2019 and beyond. There are
> several areas we’ve outlined above that have never had a Wikimania, and
> others where we have not visited for some time. We would love your thoughts
> on the areas on which we should focus for 2018 and beyond. We’ll also be
> asking in future for your thoughts about how to structure the programme of
> each Wikimania to make it as good as it can be for you, for others, and for
> our community overall.
> >
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> >
> > Yours,
> >
> > --
> >
> > James D. Forrester
> >
> > Chair, Wikimania Committee
> >
> >
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