> > I just want to know why some users were able to achieve scholarship again > and again while regular Wikimedians being excluded. >
And that is EXACTLY what Stuart explained. I understood, unless you didn't! > > > > > On Friday 31 July 2015 04:01 PM, Stuart Prior wrote: > > Praveen, > > I was chair of the Scholarship Committee for this year. > > It's unfortunate that you didn't get a scholarship, however there were > many high quality applications and sometimes the difference between success > and failure is very small, and I feel genuinely bad for any Wikimedian with > a good application that didn't make it, but it's very competitive. > > We do take into account previous scholarship awards, and focus on making > sure new people get a chance. But consistently good applications and > excellent work can warrant repeat scholarship awards despite this. > > In some cases where people have been granted Scholarships previously but > have been unable to attend the conference due to visa issues we have > considered that when receiving their applications for the current year. > > I won't comment on any individual's scholarship, but "regular Wikimedians" > certainly make up the bulk of the scholars. Edit count is not the only > factor, but it still is a significant (and clearly verifiable) factor when > looking at someone's application. > > However, we looked for organisers too. Some of our community are better > facilitators and community builders than they are editors, and running > events, training and building partnerships are things that were marked > favourably. > > Moreover, two identical applicants can make wildly differing applications. > We look for those that comprehensively demonstrate their contributions and > qualify their statements. > > Please apply again next year. You have just as much opportunity as anyone > else. > > Hope this helps. > > Best > > Stuart Prior > User:Battleofalma > > On 31 July 2015 at 09:16, Dariusz Jemielniak <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > >> Hi Praveen, >> >> I've been a steward, as well as the chair of the FDC for three years, so >> you may assume I've been somewhat active in Wikimedia movement. I did not >> receive a global scholarship neither (although I did eventually go, as I >> got elected to the Board of Trustees). >> >> I think it is clearly an assumption of bad faith to say that there is a >> bias in scholarship committee. The criteria are explicit, and obviously >> with limited resources a large number of excellent candidates, even with >> accepted presentations, will not make it. >> >> I would suggest you focus on Wikimedia activity, prepare a great >> presentation for the next year as well as a compelling application, and try >> again. >> >> Best, >> >> DJ "pundit" >> 31 lip 2015 10:07 "praveenp" <[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> napisał(a): >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Please don't derail the actual topic of the thread. I really didnt >>> assume such an interpretation from quoting his words. Whenever I asked >>> about the issue to anybody, I generally got such a reply, which I want to >>> avoid here. >>> >>> If it is need to start a new thread, I will do that. :-) >>> >>> But please tell me why some people regularly get scholarships atleast >>> since 2008, active (in Wikimedia projects / outreach programms) users never >>> get a chance to share their experience and problems at Wikimania. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Praveen. P >>> >>> >>> On Friday 31 July 2015 12:40 PM, WereSpielChequers wrote: >>> >>> Praveen, >>> >>> Whether there was anything personal or confidential in Gerard's private >>> emails to you is for him to say not for you to decide. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Jonathan >>> >>> >>> On 31 Jul 2015, at 05:59, praveenp <[email protected] >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Osmar Valdebenito, >>> No offense was intended :-(. For prominent communities that may be true, >>> but could you check list of users who got scholarship from Malayalam >>> community. >>> >>> >>> Amir Ladsgroup, >>> >>> 1) As you can see there is nothing confidential or personal in Gerards >>> reply. He just gave a summary of "known" practices. >>> 2) Users are not asking for trophies. They also want to participate >>> Wikimania and share and get the experience. >>> 3) Wikimedia projects are community processes. I simply don't understand >>> how granting scholarship to same persons again and again for five or six >>> years help that process. I also dont understand that communication and >>> sharing of multiple viewpoints, ideas and practices is possible in the >>> above scenario. >>> 4) Yes; If clicking tick marks in translatewiki on some 500 string in 5 >>> minutes before applying for scholarship (as reviewing the translation) is a >>> prominent contribution. >>> >>> In the beginning every body treated equal, we have multiple participants >>> (with understandable reasons) for Wikimania. It started to shrink later and >>> now people plainly believe granting scholarship is an act of favoritism. I >>> also want to prove I am wrong. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Praveen. P >>> User:Praveenp >>> >>> PS: Mail striped because mailman held my previous reply claiming " >>> Message body is too big:" >>> >>> On Friday 31 July 2015 05:03 AM, Amir Ladsgroup wrote: >>> >>> There are several issues I want to comment: >>> 1-First of all. Do you have permission from Gerard to publish your >>> conversation? Maybe there is something confidential in it, Did you care to >>> check? >>> 2- Scholarship is not award or trophy, bear that in mind. >>> 3- People are expected to come here and learn, communicate, etc. that's >>> why a same person gets scholarship, >>> 4- No one's wife got scholarship because of being wife of someone. They >>> probably are prominent contributors too. >>> 5- Check my first question and answer that. (Emphasizing) >>> >>> Best >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 12:05 AM Osmar Valdebenito < >>> [email protected] >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >>> >>>> Sorry, but when I read "No regular Wikimedian get any scholarship", I >>>> stopped reading. >>>> It is not only a lie, but also very unfair to all the extremely great >>>> Wikimedians that attended and made great contributions in Wikimania, and >>>> also the volunteers that have helped now and in the past reviewing and >>>> evaluated thousand of applications in the Scholarship Committee. >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimania-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimania-l mailing [email protected] >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimania-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimania-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >> >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimania-l mailing [email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > > > -- +Rexford <http://google.com/+Nkansahrexford> | khophi.co <http://khophi.co/about>
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