Hi Praveen,

I've been a steward, as well as the chair of the FDC for three years, so
you may assume I've been somewhat active in Wikimedia movement. I did not
receive a global scholarship neither (although I did eventually go, as I
got elected to the Board of Trustees).

I think it is clearly an assumption of bad faith to say that there is a
bias in scholarship committee. The criteria are explicit, and obviously
with limited resources a large number of excellent candidates, even with
accepted presentations, will not make it.

I would suggest you focus on Wikimedia activity, prepare a great
presentation for the next year as well as a compelling application, and try
again.

Best,

DJ "pundit"
31 lip 2015 10:07 "praveenp" <[email protected]> napisał(a):

> Hi,
>
> Please don't derail the actual topic of the thread. I really didnt assume
> such an interpretation from quoting his words. Whenever I asked about the
> issue to anybody, I generally got such a reply, which I want to avoid here.
>
> If it is need to start a new thread, I will do that. :-)
>
> But please tell me why some people regularly get scholarships atleast
> since 2008, active (in Wikimedia projects / outreach programms) users never
> get a chance to share their experience and problems at Wikimania.
>
> Regards,
> Praveen. P
>
>
> On Friday 31 July 2015 12:40 PM, WereSpielChequers wrote:
>
> Praveen,
>
> Whether there was anything personal or confidential in Gerard's private
> emails to you is for him to say not for you to decide.
>
> Regards
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> On 31 Jul 2015, at 05:59, praveenp <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Osmar Valdebenito,
> No offense was intended :-(. For prominent communities that may be true,
> but could you check list of users who got scholarship from Malayalam
> community.
>
>
> Amir Ladsgroup,
>
> 1) As you can see there is nothing confidential or personal in Gerards
> reply. He just gave a summary of "known" practices.
> 2) Users are not asking for trophies. They also want to participate
> Wikimania and share and get the experience.
> 3) Wikimedia projects are community processes. I simply don't understand
> how granting scholarship to same persons again and again for five or six
> years help that process. I also dont understand that communication and
> sharing of multiple viewpoints, ideas and practices is possible in the
> above scenario.
> 4) Yes; If clicking tick marks in translatewiki on some 500 string in 5
> minutes before applying for scholarship (as reviewing the translation) is a
> prominent contribution.
>
> In the beginning every body treated equal, we have multiple participants
> (with understandable reasons) for Wikimania. It started to shrink later and
> now people plainly believe granting scholarship is an act of favoritism. I
> also want to prove I am wrong.
>
> Regards,
> Praveen. P
> User:Praveenp
>
> PS: Mail striped because mailman held my previous reply claiming " Message
> body is too big:"
>
> On Friday 31 July 2015 05:03 AM, Amir Ladsgroup wrote:
>
> There are several issues I want to comment:
> 1-First of all. Do you have permission from Gerard to publish your
> conversation? Maybe there is something confidential in it, Did you care to
> check?
> 2- Scholarship is not award or trophy, bear that in mind.
> 3- People are expected to come here and learn, communicate, etc. that's
> why a same person gets scholarship,
> 4- No one's wife got scholarship because of being wife of someone. They
> probably are prominent contributors too.
> 5- Check my first question and answer that. (Emphasizing)
>
> Best
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 12:05 AM Osmar Valdebenito <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Sorry, but when I read "No regular Wikimedian get any scholarship", I
>> stopped reading.
>> It is not only a lie, but also very unfair to all the extremely great
>> Wikimedians that attended and made great contributions in Wikimania, and
>> also the volunteers that have helped now and in the past reviewing and
>> evaluated thousand of applications in the Scholarship Committee.
>>
>>
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