Hi,
This is not about me and I am not figuring that why I didn't get the
scholarship.
I just want to know why some users were able to achieve scholarship
again and again while regular Wikimedians being excluded.
For last three or four months, most of the times I communicate with
other Wikimedians, they have something similar to say about Wikimania.
As anybody can see, even after selecting same persons again and again,
there are no progress anywhere at wiki level or community level over
these years. Then what did we achieve from repeatedly selecting same
persons?
Regards,
Praveen
user:praveenp
On Friday 31 July 2015 04:01 PM, Stuart Prior wrote:
Praveen,
I was chair of the Scholarship Committee for this year.
It's unfortunate that you didn't get a scholarship, however there were
many high quality applications and sometimes the difference between
success and failure is very small, and I feel genuinely bad for any
Wikimedian with a good application that didn't make it, but it's very
competitive.
We do take into account previous scholarship awards, and focus on
making sure new people get a chance. But consistently good
applications and excellent work can warrant repeat scholarship awards
despite this.
In some cases where people have been granted Scholarships previously
but have been unable to attend the conference due to visa issues we
have considered that when receiving their applications for the current
year.
I won't comment on any individual's scholarship, but "regular
Wikimedians" certainly make up the bulk of the scholars. Edit count is
not the only factor, but it still is a significant (and clearly
verifiable) factor when looking at someone's application.
However, we looked for organisers too. Some of our community are
better facilitators and community builders than they are editors, and
running events, training and building partnerships are things that
were marked favourably.
Moreover, two identical applicants can make wildly differing
applications. We look for those that comprehensively demonstrate their
contributions and qualify their statements.
Please apply again next year. You have just as much opportunity as
anyone else.
Hope this helps.
Best
Stuart Prior
User:Battleofalma
On 31 July 2015 at 09:16, Dariusz Jemielniak <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Praveen,
I've been a steward, as well as the chair of the FDC for three
years, so you may assume I've been somewhat active in Wikimedia
movement. I did not receive a global scholarship neither (although
I did eventually go, as I got elected to the Board of Trustees).
I think it is clearly an assumption of bad faith to say that there
is a bias in scholarship committee. The criteria are explicit, and
obviously with limited resources a large number of excellent
candidates, even with accepted presentations, will not make it.
I would suggest you focus on Wikimedia activity, prepare a great
presentation for the next year as well as a compelling
application, and try again.
Best,
DJ "pundit"
31 lip 2015 10:07 "praveenp" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> napisał(a):
Hi,
Please don't derail the actual topic of the thread. I really
didnt assume such an interpretation from quoting his words.
Whenever I asked about the issue to anybody, I generally got
such a reply, which I want to avoid here.
If it is need to start a new thread, I will do that. :-)
But please tell me why some people regularly get scholarships
atleast since 2008, active (in Wikimedia projects / outreach
programms) users never get a chance to share their experience
and problems at Wikimania.
Regards,
Praveen. P
On Friday 31 July 2015 12:40 PM, WereSpielChequers wrote:
Praveen,
Whether there was anything personal or confidential in
Gerard's private emails to you is for him to say not for you
to decide.
Regards
Jonathan
On 31 Jul 2015, at 05:59, praveenp <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi,
Osmar Valdebenito,
No offense was intended :-(. For prominent communities that
may be true, but could you check list of users who got
scholarship from Malayalam community.
Amir Ladsgroup,
1) As you can see there is nothing confidential or personal
in Gerards reply. He just gave a summary of "known" practices.
2) Users are not asking for trophies. They also want to
participate Wikimania and share and get the experience.
3) Wikimedia projects are community processes. I simply
don't understand how granting scholarship to same persons
again and again for five or six years help that process. I
also dont understand that communication and sharing of
multiple viewpoints, ideas and practices is possible in the
above scenario.
4) Yes; If clicking tick marks in translatewiki on some 500
string in 5 minutes before applying for scholarship (as
reviewing the translation) is a prominent contribution.
In the beginning every body treated equal, we have multiple
participants (with understandable reasons) for Wikimania. It
started to shrink later and now people plainly believe
granting scholarship is an act of favoritism. I also want to
prove I am wrong.
Regards,
Praveen. P
User:Praveenp
PS: Mail striped because mailman held my previous reply
claiming " Message body is too big:"
On Friday 31 July 2015 05:03 AM, Amir Ladsgroup wrote:
There are several issues I want to comment:
1-First of all. Do you have permission from Gerard to
publish your conversation? Maybe there is something
confidential in it, Did you care to check?
2- Scholarship is not award or trophy, bear that in mind.
3- People are expected to come here and learn, communicate,
etc. that's why a same person gets scholarship,
4- No one's wife got scholarship because of being wife of
someone. They probably are prominent contributors too.
5- Check my first question and answer that. (Emphasizing)
Best
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 12:05 AM Osmar Valdebenito
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Sorry, but when I read "No regular Wikimedian get any
scholarship", I stopped reading.
It is not only a lie, but also very unfair to all the
extremely great Wikimedians that attended and made
great contributions in Wikimania, and also the
volunteers that have helped now and in the past
reviewing and evaluated thousand of applications in the
Scholarship Committee.
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