Fantastic, got it working on the test system. Now I'm using it all is clear - that the base station becomes a device in it's own right on the network, with it's own IP number.
Now I turned off the previous weather station yesterday, and have only just got the new one working so I have some ugly straight lines on the output. What might be the best way of filling those in, or isn't it worth doing? There is a weather station just down the road that might be happy to pass their data for the relevant few hours. On Tuesday, 9 March 2021 at 18:37:44 UTC Auchtermuchty Weather wrote: > Brilliant, thanks, I finally thing I might know what I am doing1 > > And on reading your description I agree that #2 is a better option. I've > ordered a WH2650 clone. > > On Tuesday, 9 March 2021 at 16:51:00 UTC galfert wrote: > >> There are two ways to move data from the GW1000 to WeeWX. >> >> - HTTP push: This method is where you go into the GW1000 configuration >> and you set up it up to give it the IP address of the WeeWX system. This is >> done under the "Customized" server upload feature of the GW1000. This >> method requires WeeWX to be configured with the Interceptor driver. All of >> the networked display consoles can also do this method. You don't need a >> GW1000 for this. But I feel it is better to opt for the other method which >> is unique to the GW1000 (and WH2650). >> >> - API pull: This method doesn't require any configuration on the part of >> the GW1000. Rather what you do is give your software the IP address of the >> GW1000 and then it just asks the GW1000 for live data. This method allows >> for you to have even other software running on the same system as WeeWX or >> on a different system that is simultaneously asking the GW1000 for live >> data. You can even benefit from having two WeeWX systems both getting live >> data. Then you can have a production system and a test system. Then you try >> WeeWx customizations on test system and if you mess something up no big >> deal because your production system is untouched. Then when you figure it >> out you can then implement those finalizations to the production system. >> Only the GW100 and its sibling WH2650 have this API capability. You'll need >> the GW1000 API driver extension for WeeWX. >> https://github.com/gjr80/weewx-gw1000 >> >> >> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 11:40:38 AM UTC-5 Auchtermuchty Weather >> wrote: >> >>> I wasn't quite there, I'm suspecting the GW1000 is set up with a >>> customized feed to the Pi. >>> >>> On Tuesday, 9 March 2021 at 16:14:32 UTC galfert wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, seems like you understand it now. >>>> >>>> Here are some added tidbits to understand though.... >>>> The GW1000 has a USB plug but that is only used for power. You can >>>> certainly power it by the Pi, but you don't have to. You can plug the >>>> GW1000 to any USB power source. Do though consider that some power sources >>>> are less than adequate because some have been known to cause electronic >>>> interference with the sensor RF reception. I've tested the GW1000 with my >>>> Pi and it has no problems. But that could also be a function of the power >>>> supply I'm using with the Pi (I don't know). So just be aware that finding >>>> the adequate power source for the GW1000 is sometimes a concern. I don' t >>>> really want you to worry about that too much, because the majority of >>>> users >>>> do not have this problem. It is just good to be aware of it. Therefore >>>> realize that the GW1000 only sends data via the network to whatever >>>> application or device talks to it....that can be WeeWX with the GW1000 API >>>> driver or the mobile app WS View which you'll need to initially configure >>>> the GW1000 or any other software you may decide to run (Cumulus MX, >>>> Meteobridge, Weather-Display...etc.). >>>> >>>> To recap...no data over USB on GW1000...The USB is only used for power. >>>> Use a good clean USB power source. >>>> >>>> Since you don't really want a display console then you should consider >>>> looking into the following Ecowitt complete kit models. >>>> GW1001 - all-in-one sensor array >>>> GW1002 - separate sensor components with spinning anemometer >>>> GW1003 - separate sensor components with ultrasonic anemometer >>>> >>>> All three of those complete kits come with the same GW1000. The >>>> complete station is referred to by those model names...but the GW1000 part >>>> is still just a regular GW1000. The GW1000 is also available separately if >>>> you wanted to add it to an existing station that came with a display >>>> console. >>>> >>>> Your question about the GW1000 being exclusive to Fine Offset is an odd >>>> question. The GW1000 is a Fine Offset part and it only works with other >>>> compatible Fine Offset sensors. You will not be able to use a GW1000 with >>>> any other manufacture's sensors. That said realize that Fine Offset is the >>>> manufacture and there are reseller brands that slap their brand name on >>>> Fine Offset hardware. There are some resellers like Froggit, Ambient, >>>> Conrad, Misol, Watson, etc....that likely sell not just FIne Offset clones >>>> but they sell stations manufactured by other companies. These weather >>>> stations by other manufactures cannot share parts. Therefore when buying a >>>> weather station from say Watson or any other reseller it is important to >>>> know if the model you are looking at is a Fine Offset clone or some >>>> station >>>> from a different manufacture. If you become familiar with the Fine Offset >>>> catalog you will be able to recognize sensors and display consoles just by >>>> looking at them. If it is a Fine Offset clone then it will look like a >>>> Fine >>>> Offset clone. There is no way to confuse a CCL clone or UCTECH clone for a >>>> Fine Offset. The Ecowitt brand is special and they are not like the other >>>> resellers. This is because Ecowitt only sells FIne Offset as they are >>>> owned >>>> and operated by Fine Offset....they are essentially the same company and >>>> they share employees. The way to consider it is that Ecowitt is the retail >>>> subsidiary of Fine Offset. You can't buy directly from Fine Offset (unless >>>> you are a reseller). So you can familiarize yourself with the Fine Offset >>>> catalog and the Ecowitt catalog (same thing but different websites), so >>>> that you can become familiar with what all these models look like and what >>>> they offer. Then you can more easily window shop and look at Watson, >>>> Conrad, Misol, Froggit and not be confused with what is and what isn't a >>>> Fine Offset clone. >>>> www.foshk.com >>>> www.ecowitt.com >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 10:32:57 AM UTC-5 Auchtermuchty Weather >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> >>>>> Sorry about the name! >>>>> >>>>> Been for a walk and a think, and worked out what you are telling me. >>>>> The consoles no longer have USB, and the station in the garden can >>>>> connect >>>>> to a console and/or a GW1000. I can plug a G1000 into my Pi and use a >>>>> driver in the way I'm used to. >>>>> >>>>> I'm not interested in a console, the current one is completely hidden. >>>>> >>>>> So it's off to shop. The GW1000 - presumably exclusive to FineOffset >>>>> clones. >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, 9 March 2021 at 13:38:08 UTC galfert wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> There is Bob and then there me George. I'm the one that brought up >>>>>> the GW1000. >>>>>> >>>>>> The newest Fine Offset clones no longer have USB connections. They >>>>>> have all been upgraded to network connectivity. Just like printers have >>>>>> all >>>>>> gone from USB to network connectivity. The Fine Offset display consoles >>>>>> though do not have the same API protocol that the GW1000 / WH2650 have. >>>>>> The >>>>>> display consoles can only send HTTP (push data) to one Customized device >>>>>> destination with a different protocol. The GW1000 / WH2650 has a proper >>>>>> API >>>>>> (pull data) protocol which allows many devices to query for live data. >>>>>> So >>>>>> you can have a display or not, that is up to you, but it won't be used >>>>>> if >>>>>> you have a GW1000 /WH2650. The GW1000 / WH2650 get sensor data directly >>>>>> from the sensors, so they don't need the display. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 8:18:41 AM UTC-5 Auchtermuchty Weather >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Bob, very useful. But I'm getting lost when you mention >>>>>>> needing a GW1000 as well as a weather station with console? Have I >>>>>>> misunderstood? As you can tell since my current station is a WH1080 >>>>>>> I've >>>>>>> not kept my eye on new stations at all. I started running with WeeWx >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> Oct 2012 which is a long time ago! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think my problem is I have no idea how the new stuff hangs >>>>>>> together, it certainly seems that plugging the console into the USB >>>>>>> port on >>>>>>> a Pi isn't what happens these days. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, 8 March 2021 at 18:39:03 UTC galfert wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Oh and I forgot to mention that you can get the GW1000 from Ecowitt >>>>>>>> if the FO Clone brand of the station and display do not offer it. It >>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>> work as long as the frequency is the same. Your choices of frequency >>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>> 433, 868, and 915 MHz. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For example if you buy the Watson and they don't offer the GW1000 >>>>>>>> (or the WH2650) then you can just get this added part from Ecowitt. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 1:34:55 PM UTC-5 galfert wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Newer Fine Offset clones from the various resellers have all been >>>>>>>>> tested. I recommend that you reference this product matrix to learn >>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>> works with what. >>>>>>>>> https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=40730.0 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My recommendation between the Fine Offset clones and the CCL and >>>>>>>>> UCTECH clones is to stick to the Fine Offset clones. I think they >>>>>>>>> offer >>>>>>>>> better displays and better sensors and more options and better >>>>>>>>> compatibility with WeeWX with new drivers that pick up all these >>>>>>>>> optional >>>>>>>>> sensors. The WeeWX driver to use is the GW1000 API driver. Which >>>>>>>>> means that >>>>>>>>> no matter which display console you get, or maybe you don't get a >>>>>>>>> display >>>>>>>>> at all, then all that matters is that you also include the GW1000 are >>>>>>>>> part >>>>>>>>> of the hardware set of parts. It doesn't matter if you get the Watson >>>>>>>>> WS8686 or the Froggit HP1000SE PRO or whatever other Fine Offset >>>>>>>>> clone...the only thing that matters is that you also include the >>>>>>>>> GW1000 (or >>>>>>>>> its sibling WH2650 which also support the same GW1000 API protocol). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Whatever you decide, the old WH1080 has been surpassed by 4 >>>>>>>>> generations of hardware with many improvements. If you are still >>>>>>>>> sporting a >>>>>>>>> WH1080 it is well due to upgrade it for a much better experience. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 9:39:33 AM UTC-5 Auchtermuchty Weather >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> At some point these newer clones with the newer sensors are going >>>>>>>>>> to have to be tried. A lot of Googling using the makes mentioned in >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> documentation failed to reveal any clones of the older stations - >>>>>>>>>> they were >>>>>>>>>> all 'unavailable'. Whether I am the person to do that is a >>>>>>>>>> different >>>>>>>>>> question! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 8 March 2021 at 10:18:26 UTC nav...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, I can't offer any advice on that system. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> For a bit more money you can get a unit which is known to work >>>>>>>>>>> with Weewx, offers a better display and is compatible with the >>>>>>>>>>> latest >>>>>>>>>>> sensors. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 8 March 2021 at 10:04:19 UTC Auchtermuchty Weather >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm.... I wonder if this will work? Looks like a FineOffset >>>>>>>>>>>> WS2085 clone, same enough as a WS2083? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Aercus Instruments WS2085 Wireless Weather Station with USB >>>>>>>>>>>> Upload + Free Beginner's Guide (eBook): Amazon.co.uk: Kitchen & >>>>>>>>>>>> Home >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.amazon.co.uk/Aercus-Instruments-Wireless-Weather-Beginners/dp/B08148T5ZM/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=aercus&qid=1615197377&sr=8-1> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 8 March 2021 at 09:46:07 UTC nav...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ecowitt is the trading arm of Fine Offset and the Watson W8686 >>>>>>>>>>>>> appears to be a rebadged/clone of their HP2551. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I used Weewx Interceptor in Ecowitt mode to receive the >>>>>>>>>>>>> information from the unit:- >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/matthewwall/weewx-interceptor which worked >>>>>>>>>>>>> well. >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 8 March 2021 at 08:31:38 UTC Auchtermuchty Weather >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which driver would this use? And sorry I have no idea what >>>>>>>>>>>>>> HP2551 and Ecowitt are about. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 7 March 2021 at 13:50:43 UTC nav...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have a look at this setup available in the UK: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nevadaradio.co.uk/product/watson-w-8686/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Works well, and supports extra sensors and updates (HP 2551) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available from Ecowitt/ws View app. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 7 March 2021 at 11:30:38 UTC Auchtermuchty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Weather wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So any suggestions? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of Bresser & Youshiko stations on the Internet, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've no idea if any work with WeeWx - in other words if any of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FineOffset clones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 6 March 2021 at 15:06:30 UTC Steve Woodford >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m the wrong person to ask about off-the-shelf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recommendations; I built my own: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.mctavish.co.uk/weather/about/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6 Mar 2021, at 14:33, Auchtermuchty Weather < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shunr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks that what I needed to know. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what weather station would you suggest? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 6 March 2021 at 13:55:30 UTC Steve Woodford >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Be aware that WH-1080 and its ilk have had several >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incompatible on-air protocol changes over the years. You’d >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be gambling with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your £75.69... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6 Mar 2021, at 12:18, Auchtermuchty Weather < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shunr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it might be time to replace my weather station as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a number of sensors are not working as they should, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> replacements are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now expensive. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm looking for a FineOffset as I'm currently using an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old Maplins as a WH1080, one that uses the same sensors >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would do me another >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 years. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or.... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would this do the trick? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MISOL 1 set of Spare part (outdoor unit) for Professional >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wireless Weather Station: Amazon.co.uk: Garden & Outdoors >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.amazon.co.uk/MISOL-outdoor-Professional-Wireless-Weather/dp/B00EJFCM1M/ref=sr_1_32?crid=3QF58J4XI4Y8F&dchild=1&keywords=weather+stations+with+outdoor+sensor+wireless&qid=1615033043&refinements=p_36%3A7000-8000&rnid=388997011&sprefix=weather+%2Caps%2C130&sr=8-32> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Google Groups "weewx-user" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from it, send an email to weewx-user+...@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/weewx-user/c72de1b4-33ca-49e1-b71a-c5b61365ddf0n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/weewx-user/c72de1b4-33ca-49e1-b71a-c5b61365ddf0n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Google Groups "weewx-user" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from it, send an email to weewx-user+...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/weewx-user/ba67e7ca-72a8-4cc9-88b3-35d85a4b2b0en%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/weewx-user/ba67e7ca-72a8-4cc9-88b3-35d85a4b2b0en%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "weewx-user" group. 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