I wasn't quite there, I'm suspecting the GW1000 is set up with a customized feed to the Pi.
On Tuesday, 9 March 2021 at 16:14:32 UTC galfert wrote: > Yes, seems like you understand it now. > > Here are some added tidbits to understand though.... > The GW1000 has a USB plug but that is only used for power. You can > certainly power it by the Pi, but you don't have to. You can plug the > GW1000 to any USB power source. Do though consider that some power sources > are less than adequate because some have been known to cause electronic > interference with the sensor RF reception. I've tested the GW1000 with my > Pi and it has no problems. But that could also be a function of the power > supply I'm using with the Pi (I don't know). So just be aware that finding > the adequate power source for the GW1000 is sometimes a concern. I don' t > really want you to worry about that too much, because the majority of users > do not have this problem. It is just good to be aware of it. Therefore > realize that the GW1000 only sends data via the network to whatever > application or device talks to it....that can be WeeWX with the GW1000 API > driver or the mobile app WS View which you'll need to initially configure > the GW1000 or any other software you may decide to run (Cumulus MX, > Meteobridge, Weather-Display...etc.). > > To recap...no data over USB on GW1000...The USB is only used for power. > Use a good clean USB power source. > > Since you don't really want a display console then you should consider > looking into the following Ecowitt complete kit models. > GW1001 - all-in-one sensor array > GW1002 - separate sensor components with spinning anemometer > GW1003 - separate sensor components with ultrasonic anemometer > > All three of those complete kits come with the same GW1000. The complete > station is referred to by those model names...but the GW1000 part is still > just a regular GW1000. The GW1000 is also available separately if you > wanted to add it to an existing station that came with a display console. > > Your question about the GW1000 being exclusive to Fine Offset is an odd > question. The GW1000 is a Fine Offset part and it only works with other > compatible Fine Offset sensors. You will not be able to use a GW1000 with > any other manufacture's sensors. That said realize that Fine Offset is the > manufacture and there are reseller brands that slap their brand name on > Fine Offset hardware. There are some resellers like Froggit, Ambient, > Conrad, Misol, Watson, etc....that likely sell not just FIne Offset clones > but they sell stations manufactured by other companies. These weather > stations by other manufactures cannot share parts. Therefore when buying a > weather station from say Watson or any other reseller it is important to > know if the model you are looking at is a Fine Offset clone or some station > from a different manufacture. If you become familiar with the Fine Offset > catalog you will be able to recognize sensors and display consoles just by > looking at them. If it is a Fine Offset clone then it will look like a Fine > Offset clone. There is no way to confuse a CCL clone or UCTECH clone for a > Fine Offset. The Ecowitt brand is special and they are not like the other > resellers. This is because Ecowitt only sells FIne Offset as they are owned > and operated by Fine Offset....they are essentially the same company and > they share employees. The way to consider it is that Ecowitt is the retail > subsidiary of Fine Offset. You can't buy directly from Fine Offset (unless > you are a reseller). So you can familiarize yourself with the Fine Offset > catalog and the Ecowitt catalog (same thing but different websites), so > that you can become familiar with what all these models look like and what > they offer. Then you can more easily window shop and look at Watson, > Conrad, Misol, Froggit and not be confused with what is and what isn't a > Fine Offset clone. > www.foshk.com > www.ecowitt.com > > On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 10:32:57 AM UTC-5 Auchtermuchty Weather wrote: > >> Hi >> >> Sorry about the name! >> >> Been for a walk and a think, and worked out what you are telling me. The >> consoles no longer have USB, and the station in the garden can connect to a >> console and/or a GW1000. I can plug a G1000 into my Pi and use a driver in >> the way I'm used to. >> >> I'm not interested in a console, the current one is completely hidden. >> >> So it's off to shop. The GW1000 - presumably exclusive to FineOffset >> clones. >> >> On Tuesday, 9 March 2021 at 13:38:08 UTC galfert wrote: >> >>> There is Bob and then there me George. I'm the one that brought up the >>> GW1000. >>> >>> The newest Fine Offset clones no longer have USB connections. They have >>> all been upgraded to network connectivity. Just like printers have all gone >>> from USB to network connectivity. The Fine Offset display consoles though >>> do not have the same API protocol that the GW1000 / WH2650 have. The >>> display consoles can only send HTTP (push data) to one Customized device >>> destination with a different protocol. The GW1000 / WH2650 has a proper API >>> (pull data) protocol which allows many devices to query for live data. So >>> you can have a display or not, that is up to you, but it won't be used if >>> you have a GW1000 /WH2650. The GW1000 / WH2650 get sensor data directly >>> from the sensors, so they don't need the display. >>> >>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 8:18:41 AM UTC-5 Auchtermuchty Weather >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Bob, very useful. But I'm getting lost when you mention needing >>>> a GW1000 as well as a weather station with console? Have I misunderstood? >>>> >>>> As you can tell since my current station is a WH1080 I've not kept my eye >>>> on new stations at all. I started running with WeeWx in Oct 2012 which is >>>> a long time ago! >>>> >>>> I think my problem is I have no idea how the new stuff hangs together, >>>> it certainly seems that plugging the console into the USB port on a Pi >>>> isn't what happens these days. >>>> >>>> On Monday, 8 March 2021 at 18:39:03 UTC galfert wrote: >>>> >>>>> Oh and I forgot to mention that you can get the GW1000 from Ecowitt if >>>>> the FO Clone brand of the station and display do not offer it. It will >>>>> work >>>>> as long as the frequency is the same. Your choices of frequency are 433, >>>>> 868, and 915 MHz. >>>>> >>>>> For example if you buy the Watson and they don't offer the GW1000 (or >>>>> the WH2650) then you can just get this added part from Ecowitt. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 1:34:55 PM UTC-5 galfert wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Newer Fine Offset clones from the various resellers have all been >>>>>> tested. I recommend that you reference this product matrix to learn what >>>>>> works with what. >>>>>> https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=40730.0 >>>>>> >>>>>> My recommendation between the Fine Offset clones and the CCL and >>>>>> UCTECH clones is to stick to the Fine Offset clones. I think they offer >>>>>> better displays and better sensors and more options and better >>>>>> compatibility with WeeWX with new drivers that pick up all these >>>>>> optional >>>>>> sensors. The WeeWX driver to use is the GW1000 API driver. Which means >>>>>> that >>>>>> no matter which display console you get, or maybe you don't get a >>>>>> display >>>>>> at all, then all that matters is that you also include the GW1000 are >>>>>> part >>>>>> of the hardware set of parts. It doesn't matter if you get the Watson >>>>>> WS8686 or the Froggit HP1000SE PRO or whatever other Fine Offset >>>>>> clone...the only thing that matters is that you also include the GW1000 >>>>>> (or >>>>>> its sibling WH2650 which also support the same GW1000 API protocol). >>>>>> >>>>>> Whatever you decide, the old WH1080 has been surpassed by 4 >>>>>> generations of hardware with many improvements. If you are still >>>>>> sporting a >>>>>> WH1080 it is well due to upgrade it for a much better experience. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 9:39:33 AM UTC-5 Auchtermuchty Weather >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> At some point these newer clones with the newer sensors are going to >>>>>>> have to be tried. A lot of Googling using the makes mentioned in the >>>>>>> documentation failed to reveal any clones of the older stations - they >>>>>>> were >>>>>>> all 'unavailable'. Whether I am the person to do that is a different >>>>>>> question! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, 8 March 2021 at 10:18:26 UTC nav...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sorry, I can't offer any advice on that system. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For a bit more money you can get a unit which is known to work with >>>>>>>> Weewx, offers a better display and is compatible with the latest >>>>>>>> sensors. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Monday, 8 March 2021 at 10:04:19 UTC Auchtermuchty Weather wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hmmm.... I wonder if this will work? Looks like a FineOffset >>>>>>>>> WS2085 clone, same enough as a WS2083? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Aercus Instruments WS2085 Wireless Weather Station with USB Upload >>>>>>>>> + Free Beginner's Guide (eBook): Amazon.co.uk: Kitchen & Home >>>>>>>>> <https://www.amazon.co.uk/Aercus-Instruments-Wireless-Weather-Beginners/dp/B08148T5ZM/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=aercus&qid=1615197377&sr=8-1> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Monday, 8 March 2021 at 09:46:07 UTC nav...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ecowitt is the trading arm of Fine Offset and the Watson W8686 >>>>>>>>>> appears to be a rebadged/clone of their HP2551. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I used Weewx Interceptor in Ecowitt mode to receive the >>>>>>>>>> information from the unit:- >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/matthewwall/weewx-interceptor which worked >>>>>>>>>> well. >>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 8 March 2021 at 08:31:38 UTC Auchtermuchty Weather >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Which driver would this use? And sorry I have no idea what >>>>>>>>>>> HP2551 and Ecowitt are about. >>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 7 March 2021 at 13:50:43 UTC nav...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Have a look at this setup available in the UK: >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nevadaradio.co.uk/product/watson-w-8686/ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Works well, and supports extra sensors and updates (HP 2551) >>>>>>>>>>>> available from Ecowitt/ws View app. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 7 March 2021 at 11:30:38 UTC Auchtermuchty Weather >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So any suggestions? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of Bresser & Youshiko stations on the Internet, but >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've no idea if any work with WeeWx - in other words if any of >>>>>>>>>>>>> them are >>>>>>>>>>>>> FineOffset clones. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 6 March 2021 at 15:06:30 UTC Steve Woodford wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m the wrong person to ask about off-the-shelf >>>>>>>>>>>>>> recommendations; I built my own: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.mctavish.co.uk/weather/about/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6 Mar 2021, at 14:33, Auchtermuchty Weather < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> shunr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks that what I needed to know. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what weather station would you suggest? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 6 March 2021 at 13:55:30 UTC Steve Woodford >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Be aware that WH-1080 and its ilk have had several >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incompatible on-air protocol changes over the years. You’d be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gambling with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your £75.69... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6 Mar 2021, at 12:18, Auchtermuchty Weather < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shunr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it might be time to replace my weather station as a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> number of sensors are not working as they should, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> replacements are now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expensive. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm looking for a FineOffset as I'm currently using an old >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maplins as a WH1080, one that uses the same sensors would do me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another 10 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or.... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would this do the trick? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MISOL 1 set of Spare part (outdoor unit) for Professional >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wireless Weather Station: Amazon.co.uk: Garden & Outdoors >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.amazon.co.uk/MISOL-outdoor-Professional-Wireless-Weather/dp/B00EJFCM1M/ref=sr_1_32?crid=3QF58J4XI4Y8F&dchild=1&keywords=weather+stations+with+outdoor+sensor+wireless&qid=1615033043&refinements=p_36%3A7000-8000&rnid=388997011&sprefix=weather+%2Caps%2C130&sr=8-32> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "weewx-user" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from it, send an email to weewx-user+...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/weewx-user/c72de1b4-33ca-49e1-b71a-c5b61365ddf0n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/weewx-user/c72de1b4-33ca-49e1-b71a-c5b61365ddf0n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "weewx-user" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to weewx-user+...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/weewx-user/ba67e7ca-72a8-4cc9-88b3-35d85a4b2b0en%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/weewx-user/ba67e7ca-72a8-4cc9-88b3-35d85a4b2b0en%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "weewx-user" group. 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