Brilliant, thanks, I finally thing I might know what I am doing1 And on reading your description I agree that #2 is a better option. I've ordered a WH2650 clone.
On Tuesday, 9 March 2021 at 16:51:00 UTC galfert wrote: > There are two ways to move data from the GW1000 to WeeWX. > > - HTTP push: This method is where you go into the GW1000 configuration and > you set up it up to give it the IP address of the WeeWX system. This is > done under the "Customized" server upload feature of the GW1000. This > method requires WeeWX to be configured with the Interceptor driver. All of > the networked display consoles can also do this method. You don't need a > GW1000 for this. But I feel it is better to opt for the other method which > is unique to the GW1000 (and WH2650). > > - API pull: This method doesn't require any configuration on the part of > the GW1000. Rather what you do is give your software the IP address of the > GW1000 and then it just asks the GW1000 for live data. This method allows > for you to have even other software running on the same system as WeeWX or > on a different system that is simultaneously asking the GW1000 for live > data. You can even benefit from having two WeeWX systems both getting live > data. Then you can have a production system and a test system. Then you try > WeeWx customizations on test system and if you mess something up no big > deal because your production system is untouched. Then when you figure it > out you can then implement those finalizations to the production system. > Only the GW100 and its sibling WH2650 have this API capability. You'll need > the GW1000 API driver extension for WeeWX. > https://github.com/gjr80/weewx-gw1000 > > > On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 11:40:38 AM UTC-5 Auchtermuchty Weather wrote: > >> I wasn't quite there, I'm suspecting the GW1000 is set up with a >> customized feed to the Pi. >> >> On Tuesday, 9 March 2021 at 16:14:32 UTC galfert wrote: >> >>> Yes, seems like you understand it now. >>> >>> Here are some added tidbits to understand though.... >>> The GW1000 has a USB plug but that is only used for power. You can >>> certainly power it by the Pi, but you don't have to. You can plug the >>> GW1000 to any USB power source. Do though consider that some power sources >>> are less than adequate because some have been known to cause electronic >>> interference with the sensor RF reception. I've tested the GW1000 with my >>> Pi and it has no problems. But that could also be a function of the power >>> supply I'm using with the Pi (I don't know). So just be aware that finding >>> the adequate power source for the GW1000 is sometimes a concern. I don' t >>> really want you to worry about that too much, because the majority of users >>> do not have this problem. It is just good to be aware of it. Therefore >>> realize that the GW1000 only sends data via the network to whatever >>> application or device talks to it....that can be WeeWX with the GW1000 API >>> driver or the mobile app WS View which you'll need to initially configure >>> the GW1000 or any other software you may decide to run (Cumulus MX, >>> Meteobridge, Weather-Display...etc.). >>> >>> To recap...no data over USB on GW1000...The USB is only used for power. >>> Use a good clean USB power source. >>> >>> Since you don't really want a display console then you should consider >>> looking into the following Ecowitt complete kit models. >>> GW1001 - all-in-one sensor array >>> GW1002 - separate sensor components with spinning anemometer >>> GW1003 - separate sensor components with ultrasonic anemometer >>> >>> All three of those complete kits come with the same GW1000. The complete >>> station is referred to by those model names...but the GW1000 part is still >>> just a regular GW1000. The GW1000 is also available separately if you >>> wanted to add it to an existing station that came with a display console. >>> >>> Your question about the GW1000 being exclusive to Fine Offset is an odd >>> question. The GW1000 is a Fine Offset part and it only works with other >>> compatible Fine Offset sensors. You will not be able to use a GW1000 with >>> any other manufacture's sensors. That said realize that Fine Offset is the >>> manufacture and there are reseller brands that slap their brand name on >>> Fine Offset hardware. There are some resellers like Froggit, Ambient, >>> Conrad, Misol, Watson, etc....that likely sell not just FIne Offset clones >>> but they sell stations manufactured by other companies. These weather >>> stations by other manufactures cannot share parts. Therefore when buying a >>> weather station from say Watson or any other reseller it is important to >>> know if the model you are looking at is a Fine Offset clone or some station >>> from a different manufacture. If you become familiar with the Fine Offset >>> catalog you will be able to recognize sensors and display consoles just by >>> looking at them. If it is a Fine Offset clone then it will look like a Fine >>> Offset clone. There is no way to confuse a CCL clone or UCTECH clone for a >>> Fine Offset. The Ecowitt brand is special and they are not like the other >>> resellers. This is because Ecowitt only sells FIne Offset as they are owned >>> and operated by Fine Offset....they are essentially the same company and >>> they share employees. The way to consider it is that Ecowitt is the retail >>> subsidiary of Fine Offset. You can't buy directly from Fine Offset (unless >>> you are a reseller). So you can familiarize yourself with the Fine Offset >>> catalog and the Ecowitt catalog (same thing but different websites), so >>> that you can become familiar with what all these models look like and what >>> they offer. Then you can more easily window shop and look at Watson, >>> Conrad, Misol, Froggit and not be confused with what is and what isn't a >>> Fine Offset clone. >>> www.foshk.com >>> www.ecowitt.com >>> >>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 10:32:57 AM UTC-5 Auchtermuchty Weather >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> Sorry about the name! >>>> >>>> Been for a walk and a think, and worked out what you are telling me. >>>> The consoles no longer have USB, and the station in the garden can connect >>>> to a console and/or a GW1000. I can plug a G1000 into my Pi and use a >>>> driver in the way I'm used to. >>>> >>>> I'm not interested in a console, the current one is completely hidden. >>>> >>>> So it's off to shop. The GW1000 - presumably exclusive to FineOffset >>>> clones. >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, 9 March 2021 at 13:38:08 UTC galfert wrote: >>>> >>>>> There is Bob and then there me George. I'm the one that brought up the >>>>> GW1000. >>>>> >>>>> The newest Fine Offset clones no longer have USB connections. They >>>>> have all been upgraded to network connectivity. Just like printers have >>>>> all >>>>> gone from USB to network connectivity. The Fine Offset display consoles >>>>> though do not have the same API protocol that the GW1000 / WH2650 have. >>>>> The >>>>> display consoles can only send HTTP (push data) to one Customized device >>>>> destination with a different protocol. The GW1000 / WH2650 has a proper >>>>> API >>>>> (pull data) protocol which allows many devices to query for live data. So >>>>> you can have a display or not, that is up to you, but it won't be used if >>>>> you have a GW1000 /WH2650. The GW1000 / WH2650 get sensor data directly >>>>> from the sensors, so they don't need the display. >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 8:18:41 AM UTC-5 Auchtermuchty Weather >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Bob, very useful. But I'm getting lost when you mention >>>>>> needing a GW1000 as well as a weather station with console? Have I >>>>>> misunderstood? As you can tell since my current station is a WH1080 >>>>>> I've >>>>>> not kept my eye on new stations at all. I started running with WeeWx in >>>>>> Oct 2012 which is a long time ago! >>>>>> >>>>>> I think my problem is I have no idea how the new stuff hangs >>>>>> together, it certainly seems that plugging the console into the USB port >>>>>> on >>>>>> a Pi isn't what happens these days. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, 8 March 2021 at 18:39:03 UTC galfert wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh and I forgot to mention that you can get the GW1000 from Ecowitt >>>>>>> if the FO Clone brand of the station and display do not offer it. It >>>>>>> will >>>>>>> work as long as the frequency is the same. Your choices of frequency >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> 433, 868, and 915 MHz. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For example if you buy the Watson and they don't offer the GW1000 >>>>>>> (or the WH2650) then you can just get this added part from Ecowitt. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 1:34:55 PM UTC-5 galfert wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Newer Fine Offset clones from the various resellers have all been >>>>>>>> tested. I recommend that you reference this product matrix to learn >>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>> works with what. >>>>>>>> https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=40730.0 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My recommendation between the Fine Offset clones and the CCL and >>>>>>>> UCTECH clones is to stick to the Fine Offset clones. I think they >>>>>>>> offer >>>>>>>> better displays and better sensors and more options and better >>>>>>>> compatibility with WeeWX with new drivers that pick up all these >>>>>>>> optional >>>>>>>> sensors. The WeeWX driver to use is the GW1000 API driver. Which means >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> no matter which display console you get, or maybe you don't get a >>>>>>>> display >>>>>>>> at all, then all that matters is that you also include the GW1000 are >>>>>>>> part >>>>>>>> of the hardware set of parts. It doesn't matter if you get the Watson >>>>>>>> WS8686 or the Froggit HP1000SE PRO or whatever other Fine Offset >>>>>>>> clone...the only thing that matters is that you also include the >>>>>>>> GW1000 (or >>>>>>>> its sibling WH2650 which also support the same GW1000 API protocol). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Whatever you decide, the old WH1080 has been surpassed by 4 >>>>>>>> generations of hardware with many improvements. If you are still >>>>>>>> sporting a >>>>>>>> WH1080 it is well due to upgrade it for a much better experience. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 9:39:33 AM UTC-5 Auchtermuchty Weather >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> At some point these newer clones with the newer sensors are going >>>>>>>>> to have to be tried. A lot of Googling using the makes mentioned in >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> documentation failed to reveal any clones of the older stations - >>>>>>>>> they were >>>>>>>>> all 'unavailable'. Whether I am the person to do that is a different >>>>>>>>> question! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Monday, 8 March 2021 at 10:18:26 UTC nav...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sorry, I can't offer any advice on that system. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For a bit more money you can get a unit which is known to work >>>>>>>>>> with Weewx, offers a better display and is compatible with the >>>>>>>>>> latest >>>>>>>>>> sensors. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 8 March 2021 at 10:04:19 UTC Auchtermuchty Weather >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm.... I wonder if this will work? Looks like a FineOffset >>>>>>>>>>> WS2085 clone, same enough as a WS2083? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Aercus Instruments WS2085 Wireless Weather Station with USB >>>>>>>>>>> Upload + Free Beginner's Guide (eBook): Amazon.co.uk: Kitchen & >>>>>>>>>>> Home >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.amazon.co.uk/Aercus-Instruments-Wireless-Weather-Beginners/dp/B08148T5ZM/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=aercus&qid=1615197377&sr=8-1> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 8 March 2021 at 09:46:07 UTC nav...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ecowitt is the trading arm of Fine Offset and the Watson W8686 >>>>>>>>>>>> appears to be a rebadged/clone of their HP2551. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I used Weewx Interceptor in Ecowitt mode to receive the >>>>>>>>>>>> information from the unit:- >>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/matthewwall/weewx-interceptor which worked >>>>>>>>>>>> well. >>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 8 March 2021 at 08:31:38 UTC Auchtermuchty Weather >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Which driver would this use? And sorry I have no idea what >>>>>>>>>>>>> HP2551 and Ecowitt are about. >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 7 March 2021 at 13:50:43 UTC nav...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have a look at this setup available in the UK: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nevadaradio.co.uk/product/watson-w-8686/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Works well, and supports extra sensors and updates (HP 2551) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> available from Ecowitt/ws View app. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 7 March 2021 at 11:30:38 UTC Auchtermuchty Weather >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So any suggestions? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of Bresser & Youshiko stations on the Internet, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've no idea if any work with WeeWx - in other words if any of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FineOffset clones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 6 March 2021 at 15:06:30 UTC Steve Woodford >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m the wrong person to ask about off-the-shelf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recommendations; I built my own: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.mctavish.co.uk/weather/about/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6 Mar 2021, at 14:33, Auchtermuchty Weather < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shunr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks that what I needed to know. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what weather station would you suggest? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 6 March 2021 at 13:55:30 UTC Steve Woodford >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Be aware that WH-1080 and its ilk have had several >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incompatible on-air protocol changes over the years. You’d be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gambling with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your £75.69... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6 Mar 2021, at 12:18, Auchtermuchty Weather < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shunr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it might be time to replace my weather station as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a number of sensors are not working as they should, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> replacements are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now expensive. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm looking for a FineOffset as I'm currently using an old >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maplins as a WH1080, one that uses the same sensors would do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me another 10 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or.... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would this do the trick? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MISOL 1 set of Spare part (outdoor unit) for Professional >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wireless Weather Station: Amazon.co.uk: Garden & Outdoors >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.amazon.co.uk/MISOL-outdoor-Professional-Wireless-Weather/dp/B00EJFCM1M/ref=sr_1_32?crid=3QF58J4XI4Y8F&dchild=1&keywords=weather+stations+with+outdoor+sensor+wireless&qid=1615033043&refinements=p_36%3A7000-8000&rnid=388997011&sprefix=weather+%2Caps%2C130&sr=8-32> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Google Groups "weewx-user" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from it, send an email to weewx-user+...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/weewx-user/c72de1b4-33ca-49e1-b71a-c5b61365ddf0n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/weewx-user/c72de1b4-33ca-49e1-b71a-c5b61365ddf0n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "weewx-user" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from it, send an email to weewx-user+...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/weewx-user/ba67e7ca-72a8-4cc9-88b3-35d85a4b2b0en%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/weewx-user/ba67e7ca-72a8-4cc9-88b3-35d85a4b2b0en%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "weewx-user" group. 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