I actually have an example for this kind of form.

Say I have two Records, Person 124 and Person 532.

Well come to find out, record 124 and 532 are the exact same person
who signed up twice.

I want to merge the two records together and leave with just one, but
oh noes 532 has more up to date info than 124.

So I want to display both records, side by side, with some radio
buttons A and B for each record.

If the radio button has A as a value when it comes in, I take from
Record A( in this case, Person 124)., If the radio button has a value
of B, I take record 532.

So in this case, I cannot use SQLFORM (I could, but its much easier to
just use a manual form, and manually validate the request.vars)

-Thadeus





On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Yarko Tymciurak
<resultsinsoftw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 1, 5:04 pm, carlo <syseng...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> sorry for this "out of sync" answer but though I managed some "tricks"
>> to tackle the (problem of) validation in pure html forms during these
>> years, I would be curious about an answer to Mengu's request of
>> "showing how to make validation with manual forms".
>
> When I need to do this, I do it with making a memory-based table, and
> SQLFORM or SQLFORM.factory, and do whatever validation I need.
>
>>
>> Sorry DenesL but you did not answer the question as you supposed a
>> model in place, so I would really appreciate a simple html form which
>> preserves validation. Thank you
>
> There is a fundamental "fuzziness" around this:   If you have manual
> forms without data persistence, what are you validating?  (and what
> can you not do by building up a simpel memory-db model, and validating
> transient data against that?)
>
> Second - if it is _really_ transient data that you are validation,
> then even memory db, per request, could get pretty "heavy" in terms of
> server load - why not do client-side validation?
>
> Either way, this begs the question:   why exactly this form of
> question?
>
> I want to know the reasons / situation / logic behind this specific
> (server-side, no data persistence, no temporary, memory model of the
> data)  request.
>
> As it stands, it seems to me to be missing some key information /
> motivations.
>
> Yarko
>>
>> carlo
>>
>> On 15 Mar, 21:09, DenesL <denes1...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>
>> > On Mar 15, 6:28 am, Mengu <whalb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > > First of all, I am not sure what is the problem you are trying to
>> > > > solve. Even if you havecustomformsand you build all the form html
>> > > > manually you can still use the existing validation mechanism.
>>
>> > > I don't want to use crud or sqlform or any html helper. i build my
>> > >formsmanually. and actually if you show me how to make validation
>> > > with manualforms, it would be good.
>>
>> > You could set the error messages in the requires
>>
>> > db.users.name.requires = IS_NOT_EMPTY(error_message = "Please enter
>> > your name")
>> > db.users.email.requires = [
>> >   IS_EMAIL(error_message="Given e-mail is not a valid one."),
>> >   IS_NOT_IN_DB(db,'users.email',error_message="Sorry, this e-mail
>> > already exists in our database")
>> > ]
>>
>> > create your form with the same field names and to check them do
>>
>> > for n,v in request.vars.items():
>> >   rr=db.users[n].requires
>> >   if isinstance(rr,list):
>> >     t,e=v,None
>> >     for r in rr:
>> >       t,e=r(t)
>> >       if e: break
>> >   else:
>> >     t,e=rr(v)
>> >   if e:
>> >     form.errors[n]=e
>>
>> > # here do whatever you need to do with form.errors
>>
>> > Denes
>
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