We need two sets of documentation.

Community documentation, for those who use web2py

Developer documentation, for those who contribute to web2py.

As far as developer documentation, I would be happy with lots of
comments in the code. At the very least 25% of the lines should become
meaningful comments!

For community documentation, at least
http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.1/ got something right :)

-Thadeus





On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 11:18 AM, DenesL <denes1...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
> First of all you can't just replicate the pdf book, only the code
> examples.
> Second, sales revenue is not an objective.
>
> The effort of webtopy is to unify scattered docs.
> An online version of documentation is not a bad idea, it allows timely
> update so it is always current (ala other doc wikis).
> Documentation by users for users.
>
>
> On Feb 4, 11:57 am, tiago almeida <tiago.b.alme...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Why go through all this effort to just replicate what's already available in
>> the PDF, to an html format?
>>
>> What a website can give, and a book can't, is tutorials, short tips, FAQs,
>> discussions etc. Something the wiki could provide if it were open to public
>> editing (or the newly createdhttp://webtopy.org/community/if it gets
>> comunity support).
>>
>> An online version of the book is, to me, just a bad idea: it won't give any
>> extra benefit in relation to the pdf and it will negatively affect the book
>> sales (which might be important).
>>
>> Just my 2 cent.
>> Best Regards,
>> Tiago
>> ------
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 4:39 PM, villas <villa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Feb 3, 8:58 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>> > > Denes is right.
>>
>> > Hi Massimo,
>> > Well,  more specifically then:
>>
>> > 1. Do you agree that it's a good idea to use the current book to make
>> > an online book?  If not, let's forget it.
>>
>> > 2. Do you have an opinion on what form the online book should take?
>> > e.g. Djanjo, Cakephp, Php.net manual with comments...
>>
>> > 3. Income. Will the online book project negatively affects the income
>> > from the book. To make sure that this does not lead to a problem,  I
>> > propose that you make a suggestion as to how this may be compensated.
>> > I suggest alternatives might include adsense,  a subscription model,
>> > and donations, etc for access to all the update notes.  Of course,
>> > even If the online book became the main place for the documentation to
>> > be updated,  you could still sell the paper version. This would be
>> > something for you to decide / accept.
>>
>> > 4. What format should we use for the text?  (Markdown, please?)
>>
>> > 5 .It is important for the domain to belong to Web2py/Massimo.  May I
>> > suggest book.web2py.com?
>>
>> > 6. No one will take the online book project seriously unless we also
>> > think about the roles we would need to fill. There are people in this
>> > community with much greater project expertise than I,  so please feel
>> > free to dismiss the following.  I am only making suggestions. e.g.
>> > - Model Designer.  It is crucial that the data is saved in the most
>> > logical way for the future.  This shouldn't be trusted to someone like
>> > me!  I vote for you (Massimo),  if you have time.  Part of my
>> > reasoning is that you know how to design a workable versioning
>> > system :-)
>> > - Project Manager.  Allocate tasks (and fire people!),  supervise,
>> > coordinate timeline.
>> > - Programmers for controllers and views.  Maybe split this into two:
>> > Admin and Enduser.
>> > - Html, CSS and JQuery effects (optional extra, can come later)
>> > - Data Loaders to copy and paste the sections of the book.  I think
>> > I'd be good at this one,  if the project manager would have me!
>>
>> > Sorry to ask/make these specific questions/suggestions,  but without
>> > your support (Massimo),  let's be realistic,  a community effort to
>> > produce and support the online book project probably isn't going to
>> > happen.
>>
>> > Thanks for listening.
>> > --D
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