On Dec 3, 4:25 pm, Thadeus Burgess <thade...@thadeusb.com> wrote:
> It also depends on the TYPES of questions that get asked, and the rate of
> "yes there is a solution" to "no sorry" answers.
>
> For web2py, I would say 99% of the questions that get asked, get answered
> with a "yes you can, here is how".

*sigh* --- as I've said all along, this is a NULL argument; I believe
the correlation from activity to use/ usefulness is non-deterministic
at best.

In fact, the NUMBER of "how do I do..." about forms, validators, etc.
shows more about either potential audience, or design (if something is
repeatedly unclear, that in general is not a good sign; either
audience impedence mismatch, or design abstraction doesn't fit well
enough - time for a re-factor).

I'm not saying things one way or another (there _are_ things that just
are not clear enough, and others that are, but people keep asking the
same old "you should know this" kinds of questions - it's a mix) ---
except looking at group activity is ... not meaningful by itself.

And, yes, I really do believe that software that has no / very few
questions, no "need for the manual", and lots of use says something
POSITIVE about the software and how well it matches it's problem-
domain and use.  I also agree that web frameworks are complex enough
that THAT is probably not a realistic expectation to have of
frameworks in general.

Nevertheless, things can always be clearer and easier  -  better
targeted at the intended "kinds of" things that are trying to be
accomplished.

- Yarko

>
> There are other projects out there, that can't claim such a high rate for
> questions answered.
>
> Times and time again I have been told by even maintainers of some projects
> "NO there is no way to do that, and never will be, tough luck". All while
> the question was legitimate, and should be possible with this said project.
>
> -Thadeus
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Richard <richar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > LOTS of questions, bug reports, and need for help in using is not a
> > > good sign.  LOW user activity, few question (when correlated with high
> > > use) --- that is a good sign;
>
> > Do you really believe that?
> > A web framework has a lot more complexity than most applications, so
> > there are bound to be more questions from noobs like me. Lots of
> > questions is a good sign that lots of people are interested.
>
> > On Dec 3, 3:41 pm, Yarko Tymciurak <resultsinsoftw...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > On Dec 2, 10:10 pm, Richard <richar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > monthly post numbers are available here:
> >http://groups.google.com/group/web2py/about
>
> > > To get just HOW MUCH this is irrelevant, take a look athttp://
> > groups.google.com/group/codereview-discuss/about
>
> > > This is the reitveld code review tool written by Guido in Python /
> > > Django for GAE - it's what is is used for (among other things) all the
> > > activitiy on Chrome (the open source Chromium browser ports to other
> > > platforms, including Linux).  There are other internal google projects
> > > which use this, and it's available for any project on code.google.com.
>
> > > November: web2py: 1908;  codereview: 5
>
> > > I will suggest that the user base and amount of traffic that reitveld
> > > app sees is SIGNIFICANTLY greater than ... ok, I'll go out
> > > (potentially) on a limb here: ALL web2py apps worldwide saw in
> > > November.
>
> > > LOTS of questions, bug reports, and need for help in using is not a
> > > good sign.  LOW user activity, few question (when correlated with high
> > > use) --- that is a good sign;
>
> > > - Yarko
>
> > > > On Dec 3, 1:21 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>
> > > > > I agree but that is difficult to measure.
>
> > > > > On Dec 2, 7:59 pm, waTR <r...@devshell.org> wrote:
>
> > > > > > I think a more valid statistic is # of postings/ month. I would
> > argue
> > > > > > an inactive user is not necessarily a good thing. Not to throw
> > water
> > > > > > on the great news or anything. It is still a positive indicator
> > that
> > > > > > the user numbers are growing.  Go web2py!!
>
> > > > > > On Dec 2, 3:58 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > yes.
>
> > > > > > > On Dec 2, 4:28 pm, DenesL <denes1...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > y-axis: users,
> > > > > > > > x-axis: days(?)
>
> > > > > > > > On Dec 2, 2:48 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > >https://www.web2py.com/examples/static/users.jpg
>
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