My experience is that the database is the bottleneck, in particular if
the database is not local.

Massimo


On Jul 7, 6:03 pm, Yarko Tymciurak <yark...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 5:56 PM, mr.freeze <nat...@freezable.com> wrote:
>
> > >>I am not an expert, but since I found out about your web2py, I am
> > speechless.
>
> > That was my reaction too.  web2py was the only framework I found that
> > let me focus on actual web development and not get bogged down by
> > idiosyncratic templating languages and quirks of other people's
> > imaginations.  It's just a smarter framework.  But as Massimo has
> > said, web2py would not exist without it's predecessors.  Turbogears,
> > Django and others forged a path and web2py improved upon that path.  I
> > would not hesitate to use it for any size project.  The limitations
> > have more to do with dynamic vs. static language performance IMO.
>
> ... which has more to do with what you are doing, and how you plan it -- web
> latency is often your biggest bottleneck, and performance is simply not an
> issue at all.  Where it is, there are ways to combine compiled language
> performance only where needed (cython, interface to native code, etc.).
> It's not needed very often at all.
>
> ... if only you knew how much python runs behind the doors of google - talk
> about traffic....
>
>
>
> > On Jul 7, 5:16 pm, eric cs <eeri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Wow Massimo him self, that alone is awesome.
> > > I am not an expert, but since I found out about your web2py, I am
> > > speechless.
> > > Looks like so good that must hava a flaw,,,hehehe, you know what I am
> > > saying.
> > > I bet more people know about it they will quit other frameworks.
> > > How does it compare to java's spring and Php's zend in your opinion.
> > > Congratulation for this fantastic piece of software.
> > > I would like to help anywhere I can if you guys need some, I believe
> > > 120% in web2py.
> > > Just amazing!!!!!
> > > Web2py will make me learn Python!!!
>
> > > On Jul 7, 6:04 pm, eric cs <eeri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Fran thanks for the reply, but about those problems how
> > > > rails,zend,django would be diferent.
> > > > I understand orm for big sites can be slow, but just that right?
> > > > Thanks.
>
> > > > On Jul 7, 5:53 pm, Fran <francisb...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jul 7, 10:36 pm, eric cs <eeri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > I'm just wondering to do big e-commerce sites like
> > > > > >www.taget.comorwww.bestbuy.comisn'tweb2pyenough, or does it need
> > more maturity?
>
> > > > > I imagine that a serious site like this would have a team behind it
> > > > > which may mean you wouldn't get all the benefits of Web2Py:
> > > > > * DB folks may not let you do live migrations
> > > > > * Web designers will need the full custom forms so will quickly move
> > > > > beyond the rapid prototyping benefits of simple {{=form}}
> > > > > * You'll have rigorous change control on upgrades to framework so
> > > > > won't benefit from rapid codebase development
>
> > > > > Note this isn't a reason against Web2Py for such an
> > application...just
> > > > > that it's less of a sweet spot for this framework.
> > > > > I see no reason why it would actually be a bad idea to use this
> > > > > framework though - I imagine that you'll still be able to prototype
> > > > > quickly & deliver a fully-working system just a bit later.
>
> > > > > Let us know how you get on :)
>
> > > > > F
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