Awesome guys, I still can't believe..hheheh
I just mention that to a django guys and he called web2py a mini-framework
and django is more feature for big apps.
Do you agree with that?
I am not a Django guy so I don't know but native
orm,scalfolding,migrations,admin, this community...just amazing, I'm just
wondering to do big e-commerce sites like www.taget.com or
www.bestbuy.comisn't web2py enough, or does it need more maturity?
Thanks.


On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Yarko Tymciurak <yark...@gmail.com> wrote:

> well, and there is so much more than that  - it's hard to describe
> sometimes...
>
> Have a running site in web2py?   User request means adding something to
> that user table they / you forgot to think about?
> No problem - first live update (which is scary)  goes without a hitch
> (adding a new field to an existing table is probably the least scary of the
> things you could do; I wouldn't remove any! - too scary)...
>
> Did you need to restart the server?  No!  The next request will alter the
> table, and the person on the phone with you will just say "Oh!  There it
> is!!! How did you do that? Gee - thanks!"
>
> Need a report someone asked you for that is really weird - one off; nothing
> you want to put in the code base, no one else will ever need it again ... or
> maybe you're not convinced the requestor has thought it thru and just want
> to give him one report for him to noodle on?  No problem!   log into your
> server, fire up a web2py shell instance (on the running site - it's ok, it's
> just another thread), enter the lines of code to see if you got that select
> statement right, and then save / send / email  the result and exit the
> shell.
>
> You can develop this way too...
>
> Run web2py - 2 windows: admin, and site;   add a shell (if you have
> ipython, you'll have all sorts of nice completions) - and your favorite
> ide....
>
> Add the basics in admin, seed the data; now to the website, and try it as a
> user;  need to change somethnig, not sure what ... test out a few python
> "phrases" in the shell - Ah! there's what I wanted - put it into the file w/
> the admin interface; test; repeat...  Idea giving you bigger ideas? Make
> those bigger changes in your IDE on the live site, and test...
>
> Wow....
>
> How do you put this in a slide or two?  I dunno....
>
> About the only thing not there (_yet_) is a layout manager you can assign
> controllers to pieces of the screen (but jpolite port is a start to even
> that).
>
> So....  How does one compare, without deploying, living with user issues,
> and being comfortable enough with the environment to "get" what this
> provides you in the trenches?  I don't know....  I hope more expreience this
> aspect....
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:22 PM, JohnMc <maruadventu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> eric,
>>
>> Web2Py's saving grace -- you won't have to do it twice unless you want
>> to. I have some code that is about a year old and that code still
>> works on the current web2py releases today. I have had no complaints
>> on speed. The ORM is as expressive as any other out there.
>>
>> Massimo is working on a new book release so that complaint will
>> disappear shortly. Besides this list is very supportive in helping
>> out. Rails, Django, Zend all have the advantage of mindshare and that
>> is about it. But I will trade that for the speed of getting things
>> done.
>>
>> JohnMc
>>
>> On Jul 7, 12:58 pm, eric cs <eeri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Guys I just knew this framework and really I can't believe it....
>> > Several people say good things about Django but web2py looks like way
>> > better.
>> > So I would ask you to compare web2py to Rails,Django,Zend,Spring and
>> > tell me the cons and pros and tell me some stuff that 2py doesn't do?
>> > Any limitations besides books?
>> > What about deployment and shared servers, is it have cheap,reliable
>> > hosting services like php?
>> > Is it scalable and what about performance against other frameworks.
>> > Is it ORM really fast and great like Hibernate?
>> > How anyone can think about using anything else, really!!!
>> > Thanks.
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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