Speaking of the devil:

New Features for Amazon SimpleDB Coming Soon:

*  SQL-like SELECT API:  With this feature, you will be able to employ
a very familiar SQL-like query language when constructing queries and
building applications.  The SELECT API will help you be more
productive with Amazon SimpleDB right from the start.


Do I smell another DAL data source ? :)

On Nov 30, 6:32 pm, achipa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Zoom: Not sure what do you mean... You can use any tutorial that
> describes how to deploy a linux image on EC2. From there on, it
> behaves the same way as a regular machine would. Maybe the name is a
> bit confusing, EC2 is not actually a cloud, it's a grid (subtle, but
> important difference, for some things you might want the first
> approach, for others, the latter). Synchronising the nodes is probably
> a too application specific task to support it on web2py level, you
> will have to make your own solution (the most common one being a
> central database server or database cluster). The one 'simple' thing
> web2py could do to help EC2 people is to have SimpleDB support (as
> mentioned above), although SimpleDB has even more limitations than GAE
> databases...
>
> Massimo: It's basically a data mining app and it uses web2py on the
> user interface and monitoring nodes. It's for a startup that hasn't
> gone public (yet) so unfortunately I'm not allowed to disclose details
> about it :( I will post some screenshots of the monitoring section as
> it's fairly generic (I was contemplating of making that an appliance,
> but it's still far from completion).
>
> On Nov 30, 5:31 pm, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > wow. Can you tell us what does your app do?
>
> > On Nov 30, 5:14 am, achipa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > I'm using web2py on EC2 without any problems (6 nodes at the moment
> > > and scaling upwards). As EC2 nodes are really just virtualized linux
> > > (and as of recently, windows) instances, there is zero difference in
> > > running a web2py on EC2 and your regular development box. However,
> > > there are a few things that MIGHT be interesting for special
> > > application in web2py on Amazon Web Services - namely SimpleDB,
> > > database, not unlike google's own bigtable. The other interesting
> > > thing would be probably storage of uploaded and/or static files on
> > > S3... Many opportunities there, but quite AWS specific.
>
> > > On Nov 30, 1:47 am, 43gm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > Are there some good examples of web2py running on Amazon's cloud?
>
> > > > Are there any practical tutorials in this matter?
> > > > ___
>
> > > > Re: Downside / Critique of web2py @http://bit.ly/web2py-critique
>
> > > > That thread prompts me to think that the Amazon cloud deserves more of
> > > > our attention (relative to GAE Google App Engine).
>
> > > > It seems that using web2py v1.50 on GAE will be computationally
> > > > expensive due to the way it uses exec. Non-trival code needs to be
> > > > compiled, but GAE prohibits pyc files from external origins.
>
> > > > On the other hand, I would imagine that at Amazon one could simply
> > > > just put the pyc files in the cloud, choose a VM configuration, and
> > > > get going.
>
> > > > The latency issue needs comparison. With compiled code in a dictionary
> > > > solution, web2py can reportedly get down to 10 ms from around 800 ms
> > > > at GAE.  How would it be at Amazon?
>
> > > > The other upside at the Amazon would be the implicit use of JOIN, OR,
> > > > and LIKE for databases.  (Noting that those operations are not
> > > > permitted for GQL, GAE bigtable.)
>
> > > > Furthermore, it also seems far more easier to take back one's own
> > > > data, if necessary, from Amazon than from GAE.
>
> > > > The bottom line is have great portable web2py solutions for cloud
> > > > computing...  at the lowest cost. (GAE is yet to announce prices
> > > > beyond the current freebie, but be prepared.)
>
> > > > Your thoughts?
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