I would like to share some research links for Amazon EC2 cloud:

- General tutorial on Amazon EC2 (Elastic Compute Cloud):
http://aws.amazon.com/ec2
If you have a bookstore account at Amazon, that can
be used for cloud billing.

Amazon EC2 Getting Started Guide:
http://ec2gsg.notlong.com

- Django works (on Gentoo linux image)
http://bit.ly/django-cloud
good news is that PostgreSQL can be included,
and I hope that with web2py, multiple databases
can be supported (big +).

I prefer Ubuntu, so checked out:
http://alestic.com/
for public AMIs (Amazon Machine Images).

For static files, Amazon S3 works with Django, video:
http://showmedo.com/videos/video?name=2680000&fromSeriesID=268

- How much is it going to cost? The most interesting case
study is JamGlue, the very successful social network which
remixes music:
"approximate monthly AWS bills for four milestones.
* Pre-Launch - $1.50/month
* Beta - $15/month
* Launch - $150/month
* Now - $600/month"
http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2007/04/jamglues-growth.html
That's very inexpensive considering the computational intensity
of the service.


___ Some projects worth considering for web2py:
- establish the most compact machine image to run it.
- make functional admin console (big advantage over GAE).
- proof of concept for multiple databases (none at Django).
- polished tutorial to quickly get working on web2py-cloud.

PERMALINK to this thread at this web2py group:
http://bit.ly/web2py-cloud


On Nov 29, 6:04 pm, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have not used EC2 but hopefully somebody can provide more insight.
>
> About exec on GAE. As soon as possible I will add caching of pyc files
> and the problem will be gone.
> Robin suggested this.
>
> In any case complex apps should have more logic in modules than
> controllers and modules are imported thus pyc(s) are cached already on
> GAE.
>
> Massimo
>
> On Nov 29, 6:47 pm, 43gm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Are there some good examples of web2py running on Amazon's cloud?
>
> > Are there any practical tutorials in this matter?
> > ___
>
> > Re: Downside / Critique of web2py @http://bit.ly/web2py-critique
>
> > That thread prompts me to think that the Amazon cloud deserves more of
> > our attention (relative to GAE Google App Engine).
>
> > It seems that using web2py v1.50 on GAE will be computationally
> > expensive due to the way it uses exec. Non-trival code needs to be
> > compiled, but GAE prohibits pyc files from external origins.
>
> > On the other hand, I would imagine that at Amazon one could simply
> > just put the pyc files in the cloud, choose a VM configuration, and
> > get going.
>
> > The latency issue needs comparison. With compiled code in a dictionary
> > solution, web2py can reportedly get down to 10 ms from around 800 ms
> > at GAE.  How would it be at Amazon?
>
> > The other upside at the Amazon would be the implicit use of JOIN, OR,
> > and LIKE for databases.  (Noting that those operations are not
> > permitted for GQL, GAE bigtable.)
>
> > Furthermore, it also seems far more easier to take back one's own
> > data, if necessary, from Amazon than from GAE.
>
> > The bottom line is have great portable web2py solutions for cloud
> > computing...  at the lowest cost. (GAE is yet to announce prices
> > beyond the current freebie, but be prepared.)
>
> > Your thoughts?
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