Please take a look at OSGeo. If you have companies like Autodesk joining in, you can't say it's not being taken seriously. Also, OSGeo has a far broader reach as it has half a dozen very different projects under it's umbrella and at least as much in incubation. With regard to differentiating developers, mixed emotions there. For a freelancer, I understand, but how do you assess (and maintain your assessment) of companies (especially if web2py is just an element in their operations). How do you protect web2py from copyright pollution, or prevent having misbehaving members ? While there is only (in global terms) a handful of people highly skilled in web2py (a very nice community, one of the greatest - if not The greatest - asset web2py has). However, how will this look like if one day we will have thousands or maybe tens of thousands of people and companies working in the web2py milieu ? Not nearly an easy topic. I somehow perceive the association would be to a foundation what a confederacy would be to the United Nations, but that's probably a bad comparison because of the political conotations one might see there. I don't want to be the devils advocate, I just want to see and understand the difference in motivation and perception of the two terms/approaches. Most explanations I got so far indicated more that people are not overly informed how modern open source foundations look like and what their goals are. I would really hate to see something like the OpenDWG alliance ( http://www.opendwg.org/ ) coming to life, which, while originally a noble cause and good idea, gradually turned more and more into something I'm not too fond of and just stick around because I have to. Ending rant :)
On Nov 17, 4:37 pm, "Yarko Tymciurak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Two points: > - I think Massimo's point of wanting an association is to encourage more > people to take web2py seriously, and associate and differentiate skilled > developers; > - It's not just about web2py; > > I believe that is accurate. > Regards, > Yarko > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Vidul Petrov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Massimo, > > > Splendid idea! I am in. > > > This project will encourage more and more newcomers (I have no doubt). > > > Vidul > > > On Nov 14, 11:01 pm, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Actually I was thinking about something similar but also different. > > > > I want to create an association of users, not a foundation. The > > > purpose of the association would be: > > > > 1) promote the use of free software in general (not just web2py) > > > 2) select the best open software that works with web2py (cherokee, > > > linux, postgresql, etc.) > > > 3) certify members as experts in web2py and in those other software > > > technologies selected by the members > > > 4) provide a portal where members (and member companies) can host > > > their profile and be contacted > > > 5) help members work together to compete with large consulting > > > companies for jobs. > > > 6) help members with legal issues when dealing with clients > > > 7) maintain a database of projects completed by the members and > > > accessible to members only > > > > I want us to compete with this: > > > > http://www-935.ibm.com/services/us/gbs/bus/html/bcs_index.html > > > > not with Plone or other small Python projects. > > > > Think about it. There are more than 600 people on this list, growing > > > exponentially. We already distributed all over the world. We are all > > > very skilled people. We are unified by the love for the same > > > technologies. We do have a better product than the competition. We > > > only need more organization. Why do we need an employer? In > > > manufacturing there is a need for capital in order to buy the "means > > > of production". Thus investors provide capital and get shares of the > > > revenue in return. We do not need "means of production", we have > > > laptops, we do not need an office, we do not need investments, and we > > > do not need to share our profit. We just need to be recognized as > > > leaders in our field and attract clients. I think we can do that. > > > > Who is in? > > > > There are legal issues to be resolved. The web site will be up soon > > > for people to sign up, take a quiz, and become members. > > > > Massimo --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py Web Framework" group. To post to this group, send email to web2py@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
