Our model will be different. that is email is asking you to work for free in the hope a future compensation. I would not ask anybody that.
I am thinking of an association. You go and find your own consulting jobs. You get paid and keep all the money. The association helps in legal issues by sharing copies of previous contracts among members. It help you by giving you a certification. It helps you by giving documents about good practice that you can share with your clients. It helps you answer questions from your clients like "who maintains this if you get hit by a track" or "how many people work for your company" or "what is your previous experience". The association gives you a web presence. It helps network with other members to bid for bigger jobs. It helps look very professional! The Association will not ask you any money but it will ask you to sign an ethics code and will kick you out if you do not abide. Members will write the ethics code and the policies and procedures. If the association finds a job for you, the association will keep a percentage. The test to get in will not be easy but the association will provide a study guide. These are all preliminary ideas since I am hoping to hear more comments and opinions about it. Massimo On Nov 15, 6:30 pm, Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Recently I got an email from a Django project who were following this > kind of profit sharing model, but it sounded too pie in the sky so I > backed off: > """ > Hello, > > You get this email because I felt that you might be a good Python > developer and maybe interested in working with us on a project. > > This is the > project:http://www.slideshare.net/eikepost/presentation-potencio-presentation > It is a Django based project. We work on the project in a distributed > open source manner. Each programmer contributes 20 - 30 hours each > week. Programmers are spread out in Italy, Spain, UK and India. We > chat via skype and basecamp. The project is advancing a little slowly > so we are looking to get one or more programmer on the team. So if you > are not only agood but an excellent developer, who is a tam player, > motivated, willing to take responsibility and available for at least > 25 hours then probably would be interested in including you on the > team. > > We also aim to set up an office and unite once we get financing. The > server costs of the project are being born by me currently but there > is no other expense. It is a commercial project in the sense that the > goal is to get financing and eventually make profit or sell the > project. We currently have 250,000 registered members and a certain > percentage of that in Australia > > Thus we think we will get financing very soon. The company is owned by > all team members in relation to their contribution. Thus if for > example you contribute 25% of the total effort then you own 25%. In > other words we determine ownership by individual contribution/total > contribution. So for example of Adrian for example work 20 hours and > is paid $3000 every month in shares as individual contribution and > total contribution is $15,000 then he gets 1/5 that months. > > Eike > """ > > On Nov 16, 11:29 am, Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > this is all fascinating Massimo. > > > So membership will be based on passing a technical quiz. Do you think > > this a sufficient barrier to entry to ensure quality in the community? > > > If this community successfully bid for a project, how would they split > > revenue? Proportion of hours worked / features implemented? > > > Baron > > > On Nov 16, 12:58 am, cesmiga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Massimo, > > > > I look forward to hearing more about this. The idea is very exciting. > > > > Christopher > > > > mdipierro wrote: > > > > Actually I was thinking about something similar but also different. > > > > > I want to create an association of users, not a foundation. The > > > > purpose of the association would be: > > > > > 1) promote the use of free software in general (not just web2py) > > > > 2) select the best open software that works with web2py (cherokee, > > > > linux, postgresql, etc.) > > > > 3) certify members as experts in web2py and in those other software > > > > technologies selected by the members > > > > 4) provide a portal where members (and member companies) can host > > > > their profile and be contacted > > > > 5) help members work together to compete with large consulting > > > > companies for jobs. > > > > 6) help members with legal issues when dealing with clients > > > > 7) maintain a database of projects completed by the members and > > > > accessible to members only > > > > > I want us to compete with this: > > > > > http://www-935.ibm.com/services/us/gbs/bus/html/bcs_index.html > > > > > not with Plone or other small Python projects. > > > > > Think about it. There are more than 600 people on this list, growing > > > > exponentially. We already distributed all over the world. We are all > > > > very skilled people. We are unified by the love for the same > > > > technologies. We do have a better product than the competition. We > > > > only need more organization. Why do we need an employer? In > > > > manufacturing there is a need for capital in order to buy the "means > > > > of production". Thus investors provide capital and get shares of the > > > > revenue in return. We do not need "means of production", we have > > > > laptops, we do not need an office, we do not need investments, and we > > > > do not need to share our profit. We just need to be recognized as > > > > leaders in our field and attract clients. I think we can do that. > > > > > Who is in? > > > > > There are legal issues to be resolved. The web site will be up soon > > > > for people to sign up, take a quiz, and become members. > > > > > Massimo --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py Web Framework" group. To post to this group, send email to web2py@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
