Dear Pystar and noobypythoncode. Nice comments ,
Nice license consideration pystar. Thats what i would like to see. Noobypythoncoder , CookBook is not a tutorial or teaching book. That goes for Massimo's Book. CookBook is a collection of Useful code Snippet , usually less then 1 page of code which are well categorized and well documented and those can be reused easily. So that is no way going to compete Massimo's book. Regards, Phyo. On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Pystar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thank you all for your suggestions, i have to make a point clear here, > this web2py cookbook that i am compiling is in no way trying to rival > any official book or documentation by Massimo, it is being compiled > along the line of the "Python Cookbook" by Orielly, where users of > web2py submit useful tips, tricks and code snippets. This is just a > community effort that will be very useful in evangelizing web2py to > people who have not used it before. > To the issue of the licensing, I am strongly considering creative > commons for the book itself and BSD for the code. I want it to be as > open as possible and useful to all. Like "noobpythoncoder" said in his > post, this will at least take a little of the burden of documentation > off Massimo's shoulders. > > On Oct 17, 10:07 am, noobpythoncoder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At this point - the license-type is IRRELEVANT. > > > > The REAL issue is: > > > > Will ANOTHER '''cookbook''' benefit web2py??????? > > > > WHY NOT first ask Massimo if you can open the existing cookbook? > > > > Or CONTRIBUTE the free content of this group to it, > > > > and improve the cookbook for everyone? > > > > Undoubtedly, phyo, your motivation has the best interests of web2py at > > heart! > > > > But - a daily read of this group - or just a quick search - tells us > > that the existing cookbook has become outdated. > > There are many posts where members are asking for it to be update or > > gently complain that it misses a detail. But no one contributes to > > improving it. > > > > Massimo, though very talented and forward thinking - is only human and > > has only so many hours in his day. > > > > Why don't we take this OPPORTUNITY to improve the existing cookbook > > AND merge it with Alter Ego, the latter which Massimo (and group > > members) have often talked of becoming a proper wiki? > > > > This way: > > > > 1. The online cookbook remains the property of the community (but > > controlled by our gracious web2py provider Massimo); > > 2. It will bring Alter Ego up-to-date with this group; > > 3. It doesn't duplicate material in the cookbook and Alter Ego. > > > > And this allows the new web2py book to remain the authoritative > > manual, giving some financial compensation back to Massimo, and > > doesn't dismiss the existing cookbook. > > > > I don't mean to sound 'mean' - but as a community - we really could do > > more to give back to Massimo and his great works. > > > > The recent Cheatsheet was an AWESOME example of this young community > > rallying to the cause! > > > > Now is the time that we help Massimo, web2py, and ourselves by > > stepping up to the plate and... > > > > taking responsibility for some of the stuff that web2py needs: > > > > 1. Alter Ego => wiki > > 2. Cookbook being updated. > > ETC > > > > I hope this doesn't seem a rant. > > Like phyo - my team has a collection of posts from this group - > > categorized to help it - and has considered offering it to this > > community. It's likely many of us do. > > > > But we should do it in a way that: > > > > 1. doesn't compete with the commercial viability of the first web2py > > book Massimo has published; > > 2. updates the existing cookbook he published for FREE - at regular > > publishing intervals; > > 3. is in sync with Alter Ego. > > > > We are growing as a community every day. > > > > Has anyone noticed the recent increase in numbers and the growing > > sophistication (and noob level) of questions?? > > > > It's AWESOME, eh??! > > > > Web2py is going to go mainstream in '09. > > > > (Honestly - I've got a PDF where DHH brags that 500 developers around > > the world are using Rails... and now look at it's user base and hype! > > Web2py has a MUCH better chance... and the range of users here tells > > us it is almost at a critical mass! :-) > > > > Let's pull together as a 'team' and make this expansion... smoother. > > > > There is a STANDARD open source community development model now. > > > > Like our software - let's get ahead of this CURVE - and anticipate > > what new users want... and what we may want in the near future or NOW. > > > > While we discuss this - Massimo is doing the same - being FORWARD > > THINKING - by finishing T3, which looks to 'EVOLUTIONISE' frameworks! > > > > Why don't we do the same as a community - and help this amazing human > > being help us - and help him?? > > > > Phyo - you seem to be a VERY talented coder - could you help rebuild > > Alter Ego as a wiki or update the existing cookbook? > > > > Voltron, DenesL, Timbo, also appear to be regular talented coders. > > > > And the rest of you... you know who you are... as we do. > > > > So... why don't we use this thread as an opportunity to take some > > weight off Massimo's shoulders and delegate amongst us to do some COOL > > stuff like finesse the web2py site, update THE cookbook, transform > > Alter Ego, etc??? > > > > While being here, I've read people: > > Ask Massimo to improve the look of his web site; > > Update the cookbook; > > Update the manual; > > Publish the new book as PDF; > > Ask for his time to solve MANY coding problems; > > Moan about the flash bar in the editor being annoying (ME=); > > ETC... > > > > Most forums have MOD'S. > > Wikis have EDITORS. > > > > You get the IDEA. > > > > I'm not pooh poohing your idea phyo. > > > > But it's raised a WHOLE LOT MORE! :D > > > > And hopefully a whole lot more - ACTION! > > > > Come on TEAM! > > > > :D > > > > PS I may even contribute that search tool for the admin. ;-) > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py Web Framework" group. 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