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On 4 December 2013 21:55, Thomas Wrobel <darkfl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ah...ok.
> If someone could give me editing ability's over that getting started guide
> then. Doesn't sound like I could make it worse at this point ;)
>
> ~~~
> Thomas & Bertines online review show:
> http://randomreviewshow.com/index.html
> Try it! You might even feel ambivalent about it :)
>
>
> On 4 December 2013 22:40, Ali Lown <a...@lown.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> The client console does not exist anymore.
>> It was removed the code base (at least) two years ago.
>>
>> Ali
>>
>> On 4 December 2013 21:38, Thomas Wrobel <darkfl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Ok, just checking the output of the build.
>> >
>> > I have a "dist" folder with:
>> >
>> > pst.jar
>> > wave-in-a-box-server-0.4-incubating.jar
>> > wave-in-a-box-export-import-0.4-incubating.jar
>> >
>> > The old guide (
>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WAVE/Building+Wave+in+a+Box#
>> )
>> > makes reference to
>> >
>> > waveinabox-client-console-0.3.jar
>> > waveinabox-server-0.3.jar
>> >
>> > in a "wave-protocol" directory. Neither the directory or those files
>> exist.
>> > I assume  "waveinabox-server-0.3.jar" is now called
>> >  "wave-in-a-box-server-0.4-incubating.jar"
>> > But is "waveinabox-client-console-0.3.jar" now
>> >  "wave-in-a-box-export-import-0.4-incubating.jar" ?
>> >
>> >
>> > ~~~
>> > Thomas & Bertines online review show:
>> > http://randomreviewshow.com/index.html
>> > Try it! You might even feel ambivalent about it :)
>> >
>> >
>> > On 4 December 2013 21:50, Thomas Wrobel <darkfl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Might be worth at some point looking into alternatives for
>> multi-language
>> >> support?
>> >> Should be possible without multiplying compile times.
>> >> I'll have to look into it once I am up and running.
>> >>
>> >> ~~~
>> >> Thomas & Bertines online review show:
>> >> http://randomreviewshow.com/index.html
>> >> Try it! You might even feel ambivalent about it :)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 4 December 2013 21:33, Yuri Z <vega...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Permutation is not only per browser, it is also per language and I
>> think
>> >>> WIAB supports 4 languages.
>> >>> Anyway, it is very strange it took 4 hours, probably 2 GB is too
>> little,
>> >>> you ll need about 4 GB.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 10:25 PM, Thomas Wrobel <darkfl...@gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > 32??? There isnt 32 different browser engines is there :?
>> >>> > My own GWT projects, (using 2.5.1) use 7 at most. (and even that
>> should
>> >>> go
>> >>> > down in newer versions as Opera phase's out Presto.)
>> >>> >
>> >>> > It wasn't GWT permutations taking the bulk of the time  anyway, mind
>> >>> you -
>> >>> > it seemed to mostly be the testing and (strangely) expanding JAR
>> files.
>> >>> > That was just my perception though. Certainly before it got to
>> >>> > "compile-gwt:" took at least 4 hours.
>> >>> > Would the log help here?
>> >>> >
>> >>> > My machine is a 4200 dual core Amd. Not much ram (2GB), was running
>> >>> chrome
>> >>> > at the same time, but not doing anything intensive. I wouldn't be
>> >>> surprised
>> >>> > if my machine is to blame here, but I cant think why it would be this
>> >>> > different.
>> >>> > ---
>> >>> > Anyway, dinner now, then back to poking at things.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > ~~~
>> >>> > Thomas & Bertines online review show:
>> >>> > http://randomreviewshow.com/index.html
>> >>> > Try it! You might even feel ambivalent about it :)
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On 4 December 2013 20:59, Yuri Z <vega...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > > We have 32 GWT permutations the moment, we used to have only 4...
>> Some
>> >>> > last
>> >>> > > changes caused this increase... We need to be more cautious about
>> >>> > updating
>> >>> > > GWT client code.
>> >>> > > I tried
>> >>> > > ant clean dist-server compile-gwt test
>> >>> > > It took me about 16 minutes. If you tried the default target which
>> >>> also
>> >>> > > includes running tests then it could take about 6 minutes more.
>> >>> > > So max 21 minutes on 2-core laptop. This is for the full prod
>> build,
>> >>> if
>> >>> > you
>> >>> > > run the server from compiled source with dev GWT setting(only 2
>> >>> > > permutations) then it takes only a few minutes, or even less.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > Basically running wave is simple like:
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > git clone git://git.apache.org/wave.git wave
>> >>> > > cd wave
>> >>> > > cp server.config.example server.config
>> >>> > > ant dist-server compile-gwt run-server
>> >>> > > Open the browser at http://localhost:9898
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Ali Lown <a...@lown.me.uk> wrote:
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > > > "BUILD SUCCESSFUL
>> >>> > > > > Total time: 312 minutes 41 seconds"
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > Err.. it takes ~5 minutes on my dev machine! Is this a single
>> core
>> >>> vm,
>> >>> > > > doing lots of swapping, and with shared io?
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > > Suggestion;
>> >>> > > > > Would it be possible to have a virtual machine with everything
>> >>> set up
>> >>> > > > > already? or is there technical/license reasons for that to be
>> >>> > > unsuitable?
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > I suspect this would be difficult. (And you don't really want to
>> be
>> >>> in
>> >>> > a
>> >>> > > > VM).
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > > Query:
>> >>> > > > > Can Wave be updated to JDK7? is there big issues holding it
>> back
>> >>> ? Or
>> >>> > > is
>> >>> > > > > there more open alternatives we can use instead - one that
>> doesn't
>> >>> > > > require
>> >>> > > > > handing over personal details to a company?
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > (OpenJDK 1.6 works fine, so...)
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > This is quite difficult to do for the codebase. You would also
>> need
>> >>> to
>> >>> > > > upgrade all the third-party components.
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > Please continue to provide feedback.
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > Thanks.
>> >>> > > > Ali
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > >
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>>

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