I will ask at the general@incubator list - pretty sure somebody can look into the documents archive there. If a code grant has been sent, it must be there
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Andrew Ragone <ajr9...@rit.edu> wrote: > Another random Q: is there a contact at google to confirm any of this? > > -Andrew > > On Aug 19, 2011, at 10:44 AM, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Yuri Z <vega...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> I mean that Google cleared it out that it donates the WIAB code along with >>> the Wiki and logo to Apache. Is there anything else that should be cleared? >> >> Please take a look at this report: >> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/alois.html >> >> I was confused because the wave project has somehow deleted these action >> items. >> >> I see there was discussion in december because of CLAs. I assume >> committers CLAs are all on file. >> But I cannot find a message on the list that the code grant has >> actually been sent by google - I guess some of the project can confirm >> this has actually happened? >> >> If this is the case then everything should be fine and the status page >> can be updated >> >> >> >>> >>> 2011/8/19 Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> >>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Yuri Z <vega...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> AFAIK the IP issues were cleared with WIAB. >>>> >>>> I am sorry - what does that exactly mean? >>>> If they have been cleared, there is a need to check the status items >>>> on the incubation status page >>>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/wave.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2011/8/19 Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> >>>>> >>>>>>> Mercurial vs SVN >>>>>>> Seems like SVN is viewed a legacy and a step back from Hg. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am not speaking for infrastructure of course, but I have heard this >>>>>> dicussion for a while now. People always claim about SVN and want GIT. >>>>>> Now you want Mercurial. All valid, but the usual answer from infra is: >>>>>> not now. There are many problems with going to git, nobody has >>>>>> mentioned hg yet. >>>>>> At the moment there is git readonly support available: >>>>>> http://git.apache.org/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Project Wiki / Site >>>>>>> Currently using Google Sites which has a much richer CMS interface >>>> which >>>>>> handles images, html tables, sub pages, attachments. The Apache CMS is >>>>>> functional, but is not on par with google sites. It also seems like it >>>> is >>>>>> not being maintained going forward due to lack of time. >>>>>> >>>>>> other projects use other options. Some use mvn site to create their >>>>>> site. I think over at openoffice podling Drupal is now being used. You >>>>>> are not limited to use this CMS, in fact only a few do. You should >>>>>> just now that infra usually prefers static html in svn (or has done in >>>>>> the past). The Drupal instance - to my knowledge - is not maintained >>>>>> by asf infra, but they have helped to setup a vm for it. If this are >>>>>> options, you can ask on the ooo dev list how they made it. >>>>>> >>>>>> besides that, sites generated with Apache Forrest or Piwi are also >>>>>> possible. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Reviewboard vs Reitveld >>>>>>> Many of the wave developers voiced an opinion that the strongly >>>> preferred >>>>>> Reitveld over reviewboard. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So basically, as Yuri pointed out there have been some technical >>>> issues >>>>>> in doing the migration, but I think the larger issue is that we are >>>> simply >>>>>> not that motivated to do the migration because the end state looks less >>>>>> desirable than the state we are in now. So it's been hard to get people >>>> to >>>>>> volunteer their time to move us over. I think some of these issues are >>>>>> valid and we should discuss them. If we REALLY feel like these >>>>>> infrastructure options are hampering the growth of the project then I >>>> think >>>>>> we should start a discussion with the Infra group at apache to raise our >>>>>> concerns. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You should. I have been following wave for quite a while now and it >>>>>> has become quiet. How many people are still -active- on Apache Wave? >>>>>> How many have become silent because they were unhappy with the >>>>>> environment? >>>>>> >>>>>> As I mentioned in another post, it looks like IP has not been cleared >>>>>> for Wave yet. Or is it? >>>>>> >>>>>> For those who do not know, I am ASF member myself and active on the >>>>>> incubator project. If can help a little bit please let me know. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> Christian >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> If anyone would like to help in any regard, that would be great. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ~Michael >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 19, 2011, at 6:11 AM, Yuri Z wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Michael should be following this mail list, so I guess he will >>>> respond >>>>>> as >>>>>>>> soon as he can. In any way his email is michael.macfad...@gmail.com. >>>>>>>> Regarding the migration status: >>>>>>>> Currently the issues migrated to Apache, however the source code is >>>>>> still at >>>>>>>> the old wave-protocol google-code based repository. >>>>>>>> The code migration got a bit delayed for two reasons as I see it: >>>>>>>> 1. The technical one. The technical aspect of converting Mercurial >>>>>>>> repository into Subversion is kind of challenging. There are a plenty >>>> of >>>>>>>> tools that allow to do the transition the other way (from SVN to >>>>>> Mercurial). >>>>>>>> I personally investigated this a bit and seems like it would require >>>>>> first >>>>>>>> to convert Hg to Git, the Git to SVN. >>>>>>>> 2. The convenience. Well, converting from mercurial to SVN is kind of >>>>>>>> downgrade, so there's little emotional motivation to do it. >>>>>>>> 3. The inertial. Currently we have working process to submit patches >>>>>> with >>>>>>>> tested tools and code review integration. Migration to SVN and the >>>>>> Review >>>>>>>> Board will have it's learning curve and honestly, possibly won't be >>>>>> better. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also, we will probably have to move most of the Wiki that currently >>>>>> resides >>>>>>>> also on google-code, but that's less urgent. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2011/8/19 Andrew Ragone <ajr9...@rit.edu> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ok good to know. Is there a way we can reach out to him? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Matt Richards < >>>> mricha...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As far as I recall, I thought Michael MacFadden was taking the lead >>>> on >>>>>>>>>> infra >>>>>>>>>> related items. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Andrew Ragone <ajr9...@rit.edu> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So the important questions are: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 1. Who is the most knowledgeable with the current state of the >>>>>> project. >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Who are the primary leaders of the group. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I wanna get the ball rolling on things again. We shouldn't just >>>> sit >>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>> the sidelines waiting for google or whoever to finish things. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -Andrew >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 18, 2011, at 6:24 PM, Matt Richards <mricha...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> There was great momentum when Google was actively pushing the >>>>>>>>>> incubation >>>>>>>>>>>> status and active on the project as a whole. Now that Google has >>>>>>>>>> tapered >>>>>>>>>>> off >>>>>>>>>>>> (as I assumed they would), I'm not sure what the status of things >>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>>>>> more. Nor who has taken the rains of leading the movement toward >>>>>>>>> being >>>>>>>>>>> fully >>>>>>>>>>>> on Apache's infra. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Zachary “Gamer_Z.” Yaro >>>>>>>>>>>> <zmy...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 What parts of the project are where right now? And how long >>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>> until Apache has everything? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --Zachary “Gamer_Z.” Yaro >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 17:47, Matt Richards < >>>> mricha...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been kinda wondering the same thing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Andrew Ragone < >>>> ajr9...@rit.edu> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It seems there is a huge lag in migration of the Project to >>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> incubator. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is the status on this (eg. who has ownership of what) and >>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to help migrate?! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Andrew >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Matt >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> --Matt >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> --Matt >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> http://www.grobmeier.de >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> http://www.grobmeier.de > -- http://www.grobmeier.de
