> Mercurial vs SVN > Seems like SVN is viewed a legacy and a step back from Hg.
I am not speaking for infrastructure of course, but I have heard this dicussion for a while now. People always claim about SVN and want GIT. Now you want Mercurial. All valid, but the usual answer from infra is: not now. There are many problems with going to git, nobody has mentioned hg yet. At the moment there is git readonly support available: http://git.apache.org/ > Project Wiki / Site > Currently using Google Sites which has a much richer CMS interface which > handles images, html tables, sub pages, attachments. The Apache CMS is > functional, but is not on par with google sites. It also seems like it is > not being maintained going forward due to lack of time. other projects use other options. Some use mvn site to create their site. I think over at openoffice podling Drupal is now being used. You are not limited to use this CMS, in fact only a few do. You should just now that infra usually prefers static html in svn (or has done in the past). The Drupal instance - to my knowledge - is not maintained by asf infra, but they have helped to setup a vm for it. If this are options, you can ask on the ooo dev list how they made it. besides that, sites generated with Apache Forrest or Piwi are also possible. > Reviewboard vs Reitveld > Many of the wave developers voiced an opinion that the strongly preferred > Reitveld over reviewboard. > > So basically, as Yuri pointed out there have been some technical issues in > doing the migration, but I think the larger issue is that we are simply not > that motivated to do the migration because the end state looks less desirable > than the state we are in now. So it's been hard to get people to volunteer > their time to move us over. I think some of these issues are valid and we > should discuss them. If we REALLY feel like these infrastructure options are > hampering the growth of the project then I think we should start a discussion > with the Infra group at apache to raise our concerns. You should. I have been following wave for quite a while now and it has become quiet. How many people are still -active- on Apache Wave? How many have become silent because they were unhappy with the environment? As I mentioned in another post, it looks like IP has not been cleared for Wave yet. Or is it? For those who do not know, I am ASF member myself and active on the incubator project. If can help a little bit please let me know. Cheers Christian > If anyone would like to help in any regard, that would be great. > > ~Michael > > On Aug 19, 2011, at 6:11 AM, Yuri Z wrote: > >> Michael should be following this mail list, so I guess he will respond as >> soon as he can. In any way his email is michael.macfad...@gmail.com. >> Regarding the migration status: >> Currently the issues migrated to Apache, however the source code is still at >> the old wave-protocol google-code based repository. >> The code migration got a bit delayed for two reasons as I see it: >> 1. The technical one. The technical aspect of converting Mercurial >> repository into Subversion is kind of challenging. There are a plenty of >> tools that allow to do the transition the other way (from SVN to Mercurial). >> I personally investigated this a bit and seems like it would require first >> to convert Hg to Git, the Git to SVN. >> 2. The convenience. Well, converting from mercurial to SVN is kind of >> downgrade, so there's little emotional motivation to do it. >> 3. The inertial. Currently we have working process to submit patches with >> tested tools and code review integration. Migration to SVN and the Review >> Board will have it's learning curve and honestly, possibly won't be better. >> >> Also, we will probably have to move most of the Wiki that currently resides >> also on google-code, but that's less urgent. >> >> 2011/8/19 Andrew Ragone <ajr9...@rit.edu> >> >>> Ok good to know. Is there a way we can reach out to him? >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Matt Richards <mricha...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> As far as I recall, I thought Michael MacFadden was taking the lead on >>>> infra >>>> related items. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Andrew Ragone <ajr9...@rit.edu> wrote: >>>> >>>>> So the important questions are: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Who is the most knowledgeable with the current state of the project. >>>>> 2. Who are the primary leaders of the group. >>>>> >>>>> I wanna get the ball rolling on things again. We shouldn't just sit on >>>>> the sidelines waiting for google or whoever to finish things. >>>>> >>>>> -Andrew >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 18, 2011, at 6:24 PM, Matt Richards <mricha...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> There was great momentum when Google was actively pushing the >>>> incubation >>>>>> status and active on the project as a whole. Now that Google has >>>> tapered >>>>> off >>>>>> (as I assumed they would), I'm not sure what the status of things are >>>> any >>>>>> more. Nor who has taken the rains of leading the movement toward >>> being >>>>> fully >>>>>> on Apache's infra. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Zachary “Gamer_Z.” Yaro >>>>>> <zmy...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> +1 What parts of the project are where right now? And how long >>> will >>>> it >>>>> be >>>>>>> until Apache has everything? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --Zachary “Gamer_Z.” Yaro >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 17:47, Matt Richards <mricha...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've been kinda wondering the same thing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Andrew Ragone <ajr9...@rit.edu> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It seems there is a huge lag in migration of the Project to the >>>>>>>> incubator. >>>>>>>>> What is the status on this (eg. who has ownership of what) and >>> what >>>>> can >>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>> to help migrate?! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -Andrew >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> --Matt >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> --Matt >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> --Matt >>>> >>> > > -- http://www.grobmeier.de
