-----Original Message----- From: Edmund Storms > We are taking about two different phenomenon of nature. Trying to use the same concepts and words to describe both results in confusion. Those of us who have studied cold fusion for the last 23 years have a definition of CF that is not up for discussion.
That may be true regarding "cold fusion". You are free to stick with that antiquated term if you want to, but do not pretend to speak for the broader field of LENR. I am NOT talking about "cold Fusion". Period. LENR is much more than "cold fusion" in 2013. The two are not synonymous. I have followed what is now called LENR for 23 years too from a different perspective which does not require deuterium - and I believe that the proper definition of LENR must include sonofusion, the Farnsworth Fusor, the Mills effect and the Rossi effect, in addition to "cold fusion". In fact- doing so will make understanding the LENR field less confusing, not more - since there is plenty of overlap and we have moved well beyond deuterium. > Please try to understand what I'm telling you. I understand what you are saying - but I reject completely your contention that the definition of LENR is somehow fixed by the old days when "cold fusion" was the only game in town, and fractional hydrogen was considered taboo to cold fusion practitioners. You have overlooked Mills' excellent experiments from the start and continue to overlook his contributions, despite his publications, patents and success in fund-raising - or to consider the newer offshoots of CQM. Mills is NOT "cold fusion" in any relevant way - but can be included under the broader definition of LENR, especially since many of us have adapted parts of his theory to a nuclear perspective. In short, Mills work is more relevant to understanding Rossi than were P&F. In a nutshell - Ed this is our disagreement: You are lost in fading reminiscence of "cold fusion" of palladium and deuterium - which is going nowhere as of 2013 - now that Nickel-hydrogen is showing an ability to provide kilowatts in contrast to the milliwatts of most cold fusion efforts. Please do not confuse the two. Jones
