At 10:23 AM 9/26/2012, [email protected] wrote:
Initially, upon reading the statement below of Quenco's "Quantum Energy
Converter",  I can't help but think how promising this technology is.

No kidding?

Hey, I have a technology, I'll announce it soon, that will transform human society. People will be empowered, free, fully self-expressed, with peace of mind. Cheap. Amazingly reliable.

Promising?

Hey, I actually have this. (People familiar with it will recognize it from what I wrote. It's not new.)

So what if I said I have a pill that will cure every disease, by activating the body's own repair systems. How "promising" is this?

It certainly is, eh?

But ... I don't have that. I made it up.

There is no Quantum Energy Technology. Not that we know of. What we know is that someone, anonymous, and deliberately so, claims that there is. Without actually describing it beyond it is a "thin film" which converts heat to electricity, using something that amounts to Maxwell's Demon.

Perhaps some people don't know what Maxwell's Demon is. It's a theoretical construct, a thought-experiment, created by Maxwell to illustrate a point. Suppose we have a teeny door, and able to open and close the door is a demon. The door and demon are sitting between two regions, filled with a gas, say. The demon watches for slow molecules, and when the demon sees on, opens the door so the molecule will go through, closing it immediately. Fast molecule just bounces.

The result, repeated over massive numbers of molecules, is that one side gets hot and the other gets cold. There could be variations on the idea that work -- in thought -- with electrons, so that a voltage builds up on one side and is lowered on the other, creating a voltage difference and thus a power source.

As I understand this, there is no known process that serves to actually separate molecules like this, without affecting the molecular velocities, and to do that takes energy. The use of Maxwell's Demon probably violates the Uncertainty Principle.

They aren't kidding that this would be revolutionary physics. Astonishing, tremendous, world-shaking revolutionary physics. So why am I not emailing them, getting a ticket, and flying out to California?

Because it is so utterly fantastic and unlikey, and there is zero credibility behind it. An anonymous domain registration and an anonymous web page.

Okay, is there any prior evidence regarding this. And there is. I searched for "Quenco" and found:

http://www.magnetosynergie.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=871

This led back to the quenco web page, but also to:

http://www.overunity.com/12207/quentron-com/#.UGOX_lK9qmw

Previously we had expected to make a public announcement in early May 2012, however we have revised our plans and now have scheduled to make available a full press release on June 11 (2012), to the extent that we can, without harming IP rights, we will also publish certificates, lab reports and video of operating devices.


Bad sign. Promised by May 2012, not done, revised to June 11, still not done.

Another bad sign: allergic to "sceptics."

However, Philip Hardcastle has been posting to OU.com since 2008, http://www.overunity.com/5002/hardcastlesolomon-thermionic-generator/msg107817/#msg107817

Now, that first thread is quite interesting. It begins with prior work of Mr. Hardcastle. The web site mentioned is gone. The internet archive has many captures, but they are all blank. It looks like the site may have contained images that were not captured. Or they were removed. That can be done.

The technology described looks completely different from the recent thin film claim. So what happened to the old technology? This is someone who has, previously, claimed a Maxwell's Demon. Reading between the lines, he had no experimental device. Too expensive to build. It was totally theoretical.

Okay, found Hardcastle on PESwiki. http://peswiki.com/index.php/PowerPedia:Rotating_Thermionic_Generator Hardcastle requested that the page be removed. It's readable in history. http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=PowerPedia:Rotating_Thermionic_Generator&oldid=78066

Okay, Hardcastle claimed to have an invention that would convert heat to electricity, serving as a refrigerator as well. I.e., conservation of energy. But what happened to it? This wasn't "thin film," it was a mechanical device, in part, spraying electrons onto a rotating disk. Enthusiastic promotion, zero result. Hardcastle disappeared from OU.com for many months, people were worried about him, then he came back and explained. It was PESwiki's fault, or that's a snarky way to say it.

http://www.overunity.com/5002/hardcastlesolomon-thermionic-generator/msg159592/#msg159592

But hope springs eternal. Hardcastle then had a new "invention." Curled Ballistic Thermionics. Rotating disc again.

http://www.overunity.com/6904/curled-ballisitic-thermionics/msg160354/#msg160354

Hardcastle appeals to the government: http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3125

In February, 2011 he's writing about what appears to be something new: http://www.overunity.com/10381/working-isothermal-heat-to-power-technology-release/msg274807/#msg274807

April, 2012, he comes back with Quentron.com. http://www.overunity.com/12207/quentron-com/#.UGOnxlK9qmw

For those interested, following my success in isothermal heat to power conversion at 500C (the sebithenco device) I have now progressed to a solid state technology just a few nm thick and 1,000,000,000x more powerful, and at room temperature to boot.

Here are his Australian patents: http://pericles.ipaustralia.gov.au/ols/auspat/quickSearch.do?queryString=Philip+Hardcastle&resultsPerPage=

It appears that the patent application for his "sebithenco" device has lapsed. In fact, almost all of his patent applications have lapsed. Not sure what that means.

The quentron.com thread is still active, and Hardcastle is flying to the U.S., he announces, in October, to prepare for the launch in November.

Now, these threads are long, but very short on details of what has *actually been done* other than dream up theoretical devices that almost certainly won't work. Experimental results? Who needs experimental results when we have such beautiful ideas that will revolutionize society?

The history here is not encouraging respect for Hardcastle's performance. He mentions Rossi and Steorn, by the way, disparagingly. He's not going to be like them. He's going to distribute operating devices. Great. If it happens.

The common theme in all his history of devices is trying to find a way to implement a Maxwell's Demon. There is no sign of any progress, other than what he said over and over: this is it!




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