OK, I think I understand your position now. You have a gut feeling that Rossi is attempting a scam, but you could actually be convinced it is a real system under the proper circumstances. You will get no argument from me regarding your statements needed for proof as I am quite unhappy about the lack of good solid data that has been made available to us. I have spent far too much effort plowing through the mess looking for solid leads that can not be refuted. You must realize that your standards are probably not capable of being fulfilled without some doubt remaining. One can always suggest that those making the claims are somehow in error or being paid by Rossi or ignorant like the customer engineer(not my opinion), etc.
Dave -----Original Message----- From: Joshua Cude <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Dec 7, 2011 4:15 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:a long paper about and mainly against the E-cat On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 3:01 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote: Now, do you sincerely think that the large generator was supplying the heat energy to vaporize the water? I don't have sincere thoughts about anything on this subject. It could be, and that weakens Rossi's case. Those ecats could all have little burners in them too. Or thermite. There are too many possibilities to accept the highly unlikely claim of radiation less nuclear reactions producing heat. What would it take for you to be finally convinced that the 1 MW system is real? This has been covered. First, I would prefer a single ecat to simplify the scale. 100 ecats making 100 times the power is pointless, and I think a deliberate distraction. Either way, it should be completely and obviously isolated, with verification from skeptical observers. It should produce heat in an obvious and verifiable way, by heating up large bodies of water, or doing mechanical work, or at least using a properly calibrated heat exchanger, and verified by skeptical observers. The more obvious, the less verification needed. For example. heating a few thousand liters of water to boiling with a single ecat would be visible. Boiling it to half the volume, even better. It should keep going long enough to really exclude chemical fuels. In other words, produce more heat than the entire weight of the thing in the best chemical fuel. There's a factor of a million to work with. Why not at least demonstrate a factor of 10 or 100?
