Re the samples- how has been separated and jidden the famous catalyst?. Perhaps it is Nickel e-Nitrogen Telluride (abbreviated in italian as NieNTe) or something that reacts with the impurities at the start of the reaction. I think the E-cat is so efficient because a great part of the Ni powder has the proper nanometric structure and is active. I am. ready to bet Peter
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 12:19 PM, SHIRAKAWA Akira <[email protected]>wrote: > Hello group, > > I just found this in the comments section in the Swedish edition of Ny > Teknik's last article on Rossi's Energy Catalyzer (by the way, lots of > information and interesting insights can be found there!): > > > http://aleklett.wordpress.com/2011/04/08/rossis-energikatalysator-–-en-stor-bluff-eller-helt-ny-fysik/ > > It apparently contains a comment by Sven Kullander himself. Let's see what > Google Translate yields in english: > > > http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=sv&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Faleklett.wordpress.com%2F2011%2F04%2F08%2Frossis-energikatalysator-%E2%80%93-en-stor-bluff-eller-helt-ny-fysik%2F > > Short link: http://tinyurl.com/3o3aaoo > > Entire text copied/pasted below. Sven Kullander's personal comments further > below: > > * * * > > Rossi energy catalyst - a big hoax or new physics? > > It has called me to comment on what the new technology called Rossi's > energy catalyst and it will be a pleasure to do it because I have to pick up > my skills from the time when I was doing research on various nuclear > reactions. There will be a fairly detailed review. > > First I would like to mention that Professor Sven Kullander, who is > chairman of the Royal. Energy Sciences committee, since the beginning of the > year also is a professor emeritus of my research team at Uppsala University. > He sits in the room next to mine so the discussion of Rossi's experiment was > an issue every time we met in recent weeks. I always try to be as critical > as possible while it is exciting to be pretty close to the center of > something that is either a fake or something new and exciting. There are > many scientists who criticize Sven that he even has sexual relations with > the experiment, but as scientists we have a responsibility to investigate > the alleged phenomenon is real or a hoax. The fact that Sven has been > involved is quite natural since he is chairman of the KVA's energy committee > and if anyone thinks that he has accepted the results when they have > completely wrong, but by getting the present and look to open a position to > confirm or reject. As a researcher, you want an explanation on what is > happening and right now we do not see any explanation of the knowledge we > currently have on the chemistry and physics. It may be entirely new physics > that must be explained or a scam that must be disclosed. Here you can read > the trip report that Sven Kullander written . > > The biggest problem is that there is a "black box" in the center of the > plant and Rossi refuses to open the lid before he has a patent on the > invention. He is an engineer, a skilled engineer, and he is thinking like an > engineer. As a researcher, it gives priority to fame and fortune and > research results are published for all to read and understand. Of course > there is the opportunity to do some measurements and determine certain > parameters, but the heart of the plant are embedded in a sheath of lead, and > blyhöljet is the black box. Sven and I talked about the experiment before he > left for Italy and today we again discussed what they saw and recorded. To > calculate how much energy it takes to heat water to boiling point and how > much energy it takes to evaporate the water belongs to elementary > thermodynamics that produced energy are OK. It is time to look at the black > box. > > When Rossi was in Uppsala for a few weeks ago he brought with him two > samples. One was the nickel powder so that it looks like before it is placed > in the black box and the second was a test which reportedly had been fuel in > the energy catalyst for two and a half months. Energy effect during the time > stated and the total amount of energy can be calculated. Researchers at > Angstrom has examined what the spent fuel contained in addition to nickel > and it was concluded that there was 10% copper and the isotope ratios of > copper was about the same as in natural copper, 70/30. Known chemical > reactions can not explain the amount of energy measured. A nuclear reaction > can explain the amount of energy, but the knowledge we have today says that > this reaction can take place. It's time to pick up my core physical skills. > > Nickel is an element with 28 protons and the number of protons determines > the charging that the nucleus has, +28. Hydrogen has the charge +1 and > Coulumbkraften make that two positively charged particles repel each other. > This means that in a test where there are hydrogen and nickel and in which > hydrogen is the thermal energy so it can not be a nuclear reaction. The > energy is measured can be explained by a nuclear reaction, but the knowledge > we have about nuclear reactions to end the nuclear reactions that can > explain the amount of energy. It is this fact that makes many are critical > of Sven Kullander that he even cares about Rossi. Those of you who have > followed my struggle for Peak Oil know that I am not afraid of a challenge, > but then I am a nuclear physicist, I must be critical and take out > everything that shows that it can not be true. > > The fact that Nickel has 28 protons allows the nucleus is particularly > stable and we have many nickel isotopes are stable, they do not undergo > radioactive decay (CORRECTLY name is ionizing radiation, but the media does > not use that expression). The stable nickel isotopes is Ni-58 (68.1%), Ni-60 > (26.2%), Ni-61 (1.1%), Ni-62 (3.6%), Ni-64 (0.9%). In the trip report which > is available on new technology website, we read that in the sample as Rossi > did in Uppsala there are 10% copper by isotopic distribution 70/30. Copper > has two stable isotopes, Cu-63 and Cu-65, and these two isotopes can be > formed of nickel on the hydrogen nucleus, which has a mass, merged with the > Ni-62 and Ni-64. If the original sample is natural nickel to form Ni-62 and > Ni-64totalt together 4.5% of the sample, and if all these nickel isotopes > are converted to copper, you get only 4.5% copper and 10% not measured. If > all the Ni-62 Ni-64 is converted to copper would be obtained isotopic > distribution of 80/20, which is close to the natural composition 70/30. > > It has been suggested that copper may have formed by Ni-58 is C-59 which > decays to Ni-59, which in turn picks up a hydrogen nucleus, so that Cu-60 is > formed which decays to Ni-60, which picks up a hydrogen nucleus so that Cu > 61 is formed which decays to Ni-61, which in turn picks up a hydrogen > nucleus and bildart Cu-62 which decays to Ni-62, which picks up a hydrogen > nucleus to form Cu-63 which is stable. If this reaction chain would be true > even though none of the responses that I mention can be made with the > knowledge we have today, then isotopic distribution Cu-63/Cu-65 be greater > than 80/20, probably closer to 99/01. Right now, my conclusion is that the > isotope distribution measured and the fact that it has 10% copper indicate > that the sample is contaminated with natural copper. Of course I am willing > to change my opinion if you can prove me wrong. > > If the reactions discussed here are in reality, there will be products that > are highly radioactive and it is these radioactive product which decomposes > and emits heat. There is a similar process that gives rise to the meltdown > of the Japanese nuclear reactors, but the difference is that it only takes > one hour before "the new reactor" cools. The fact that there is lead around > the heart of the plant may indicate that we have radioactive decay has > slowed in the lead so it will be hot and this heat warms the water. If I > could mount up Rossi's energy catalyst in the basement of Angstrom Lab > oratorio, mount the appropriate detectors so that one can directly measure > the pulse of the heart of the plant, then it would be easy to record the > gamma-ray energies that the test produces. The radioactive isotope can be > formed, especially Cu-59, decays by beta plus decay, and at this decay has > always gamma energy 511 keV, an energy that is easy to detect. So far it has > not detected this decay. > > What will be the final comment? The water that passed the heart of the > facility has been heated so that the flow is evaporated and there is > currently no chemical processes that can explain this energy flow to the > heart contains the components that Rossi states. He has not told the whole > secret. The nuclear reactions that are possible can not explain the amount > of copper with the isotopic composition measured. If there is a capture of a > hydrogen nucleus, which with today's knowledge is not possible, then, there > will be radiation in the form of gamma rays. With known technology it would > be easy to sign this radiation. > > Let us finally play with the idea to found a new way to boil water, how can > this affect the future supply of energy? Today we use fossil fuels and > uranium to boil water and in a nuclear reactor, the energy of the fission > motion when uranium is split and from radioactive decay of fission, the > so-called residual effect. What we are discussing here can be compared with > the residual effect, ie 10-15 percent of the energy of a nuclear reactor in > operation. To get an energy flow of meaning, there must be facilities of a > nuclear power plant size and number must be quite a few. > > What shall we do as scientists? Shall we say nonsense as many do today, or > should we try to understand what is happening? I myself have nothing against > that reveal a scam, or join in and verify something that no one could > imagine. Both extremes belong to that which makes life as a researcher > incredibly interesting. > > (Read Sven Kullander's post to the blog, which I now lyter in as part of > the same) > > Sven Kullander > > Posted on 04/09/2011 at. 6:16 am > I like Kjell a background with some connection to Rossi's experiments based > on the atomärnor, hydrogen and nickel, to be able to react to an atomic > level. My topic was high-energy physics = nuclear and particle physics. > During part of the 60's I worked with direct nuclear reactions, with the > exclusion of protons from the nuclei, also in the area around the nickel. > Especially the external proton shells were of interest, their extent and > binding. > > For me, the abnormal production of energy that I witnessed on the City of > Bologna impossible to explain with current experience. However, it is > relatively easy to show that it still could happen, namely that if the > formation of a different kernel than nickel-58, origin of the nucleus, the > energy gain about 8 MeV per reaction, each nucleon, proton and neutron, is > the mass specific area is bound by an average of 8 MeV. If a free proton, > one of the protons in molecular hydrogen is bound and this leads to another > stable core of nickel-59, released about 8 MeV. The corresponding energy > gain for the other isotopes would be involved. It is an exothermic reaction > regardless of what it now is sort of process. > > Kjell says that many scientists criticize me because I lieth me to > experiment, something that surprises me because it is necessary to keep in > proximity to at all in a rational way to examine and discuss about the whole > thing is true or false. Otherwise, the discussion hypothetical. And besides > I'm curious, this is also included in my duties in the Academy's energy > committee to have an intelligence of energy. > > That said, I was really very critical of my first contacts with Rossi that > were mediated by Ny Teknik reporter Mats Lewan who himself has an MSc in > engineering physics. > > After numerous questions from my side to Rossi, I was together with Hanno > Essen, President of the Society Science and popular education, invited to > Bologna to the site have an answer. The aim was to see if it really was > abnormally high energy and also to get to know the people involved, was the > suspect or where the normal thinking and wondering about what seems to > happen. > > Together with Hanno Essén, we visited Bologna on 28-30 March. The > measurements we followed are listed in our travel report can be downloaded > from the New Technology. Measurements were classic with the measurement of > water flow, temperature change and steam generation. Both Hanno and I > followed both calibrations, start-up and I followed the implementation until > the end. Temperatures were continuously monitored. > > The measured 25 kWh for about six hours of driving can not be explained by > a chemical process. 25 kWh answers about the energy content of 2500 cm3 of > oil (I travel report I have indicated a slightly higher value, which Kjell > pointed out, he uses the figure is often). But there are only 50 cm3 volume > of the fuel chamber. So if the chamber was completely filled with a > "combustible", the energy density per liter have been 20 × 25 = 500 kWh per > liter or per kg with a material of density one. There is no chemical > substance with the energy density! Had it been myoniska atoms had et been > good. Atomic and molecular energy processes lies in the energy elektonvolt > per reaction while the core processes is the mega-electron volts per > reaction. There are a million-fold difference in ennergiutbyte calculated > per unit mass. > > Nuclear physicist Levi at Bologna University has over 18 hours of test > driving and independence of Rossi also come to the conclusion that energy > production can not be of chemical origin. He plans to further prove the > thesis of nuclear reaction measure another 100 hours to be absolutely sure > that there are no overlooked errors or warehouse uses energy quantities. > > The only option that the declaration would not be nuclear reactions is that > something förisetts in the measurement process. Or that Rossi somehow > tricked us. However, I think that both Rossi and physicists at the > University of Bologna seems sincere in its intent and do not think there is > a deliberate bait. > > It would not be long before we get answers about the phenomenon is real. > > Rossi's business in the U.S. is building a plant on > 1 MW for Athens to be completed this fall!. We have reason to follow the > development regardless of where we will end up in the end. > > * * * > > Cheers, > S.A. > > -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
