On Aug 8, 2008, at 7:27 AM, David Jonsson wrote:
On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Horace Heffner
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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When it comes to cancer, it is only necessary to create a few
cancerous cells, and mitosis handles the rest.
Here I strongly object. Cancer is a symptom of immunity deficiency.
Typically all humans get cancer several times per hour but the
immunity defense system kills those cells.
If what you were saying were meaningful to this discussion then
carcinogens should be irrelevant in causing cancer. They are not.
They load the immune system. The heavier the carcinogen load the
higher the probability of cancer. Some people have insufficient
immunities and some have occasional drops in immunity. If cell
phones increase the load on the immune system, and beyond that,
create carcinogens inside the blood-brain barrier, then their
constant presence creates a threat waiting around long term for the
opportunity to run wild when the immune system is low. This is why I
said short term studies, studies less than a year, are useless. Worse
than useless, they can be misleading. The evidence is dispersed,
small, and cleaned up. It can go unnoticed in short term studies.
That is to say it is only necessary to do enough genetic damage
such that a single cell, or small cluster of cells, is genetically
changed yet still reproduces. A fairly low Q energy focusing
effect, even if the energy is focused in a microscopic volume, can
be capable of achieving ionizing effects.
No, focusing is not enough. Focusing can never increase frequency
which is necessary for ionization. You need something which
increases the frequency. Non linear effects in the medium the
radiation travels through can do this. This is what I previously
referred to as breaking waves.
I was not referring to a photon-photon energy focusing effect. There
are lots of other energy focusing effects around. Here are some
(unfortunately mostly unrelated) effects:
http://meetings.aps.org/Meeting/MAR05/Event/22927
A resonance can increase voltage at antenna ends, or near ends, to a
point where ionization of molecules can occur across insulating
boundaries due to electron tunneling. It can also increase current
in selected small volumes to the point where cell division can be
affected. Another energy focusing effect can be focused heating,
achieved by channeling current through small areas, possibly enhanced
by a cascading destruction of cell boundaries within narrow paths,
and the direct destruction of, cooking of, very small amounts of DNA
or other cell materials exposed during mitosis that happens to be
occurring at the time.
Even without energy focusing effects, microwave energy can create
oxidants, and long term exposure to oxidants in cytoplasm can
create genetic damage.
So what? Without a defunct immunity defense that doesn't matter.
As I said above, immunities vary with the individual, and across
time. The battle against cancer is continuous, and repeatedly
loading the body up with oxidants or deformed molecules helps cancer
strike when defenses are down, while at the same time putting an
additional load on the system.
I think a lot more research is needed on this subject. It is far
from resolved. In fact, I think the effects of even microwave
cooking are probably not fully established.
Best regards,
Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
