On Aug 8, 2008, at 1:26 AM, David Jonsson wrote:

On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 12:46 AM, Robin van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Thu, 7 Aug 2008 13:37:57 -0800:
Hi,

IIRC nerve cells conduct through a process of K+ Na+ exchange. I don't think they are electrically very conducting, hence any such signal would likely be heavily damped, and result mostly in heat. The considerable processing power of the human brain is due primarily to vast parallel processing, rather than a
"fast" processor.


Axons are not good as antennas since currents travel only in radial direction.


The ion exchange mechanism refers to the manner in which nerve impulses travel. This has nothing to do with the manner in which nerves might be externally stimulated, nor with the manner electromagnetic waves can travel longitudinally across the cytoplasm surface. Clearly, cytoplasm is an electrolyte, and thus a conductor. Brain function is readily disturbed by fairly low induced voltages cause by even low frequency fields induced by low voltage coils. Voltages induced longitudinally in axons, provided the voltages are large enough, can result in ordinary potentials across the synapses, which can then effect ordinary nerve impulses if in the necessary pre-condition to do so. However, that is not the important thing with regard to stimulation at microwave frequencies. Neurons do not fire at microwave frequencies. What matters are things like the fact that even at fairly low voltages, molecules like starches can be polymerized by microwave radiation, and water molecules can be converted into hydrogen peroxide. It is well known that oxidants are cancer related, yet many people produce them en mass in their microwave ovens and then consume them daily. My contention also goes beyond this to say that nerves and blood vessels can act as antennae for microwave radiation and concentrate its effects, as well as amplify the induced voltage at selected places through low Q resonances.

Meat absorbs microwave energy fairly well, else it wouldn't cook. Get some calves brain and put it in a microwave oven for a while and see what happens. This of course doesn't prove my point about the existence of voltage multiplying low Q resonances, but it does demonstrate that, despite the fact the microwave photons are non- ionizing, they can perform significant chemical changes in the brain.

When it comes to cancer, it is only necessary to create a few cancerous cells, and mitosis handles the rest. That is to say it is only necessary to do enough genetic damage such that a single cell, or small cluster of cells, is genetically changed yet still reproduces. A fairly low Q energy focusing effect, even if the energy is focused in a microscopic volume, can be capable of achieving ionizing effects.

Even without energy focusing effects, microwave energy can create oxidants, and long term exposure to oxidants in cytoplasm can create genetic damage. This kind of damage will not be picked up in short term exposure studies, i.e. studies of less than a year, and differing subjects will have highly different sensitivities to long term exposure to high oxidant concentrations. Beyond this, it is very clear to me that there exist mechanisms of conduction in electrolytes that involve more than just heavy ion movements, and which are near light speed. I found this out while experimenting with a 10 meter long electrolytic cell made of plastic tubing. See:

http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/Ecell10m.pdf

This was a very amateurish investigation, and I often think of re- doing it, since I have much better equipment now, but it always seems to be a very low priority compared to other things. However, it clearly establishes the existence of a non-heavy-ion conduction mechanism, and thus the feasibility of resonance at microwave frequencies. It would be interesting to revisit this with the intent to also establish HF longitudinally resonant conditions.

Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/




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