How does a provider maintain NECA compliance with a 100% cloud based
solution and no physical gateways in each LATA? 

Thanks, 

Bob 

On 2024-08-14 08:43, Mike Hammett via VoiceOps wrote:

> "Do rural operators WANT to keep running expensive local switches? Or, would 
> cloud be more attractive if there was survivability? i.e., limited local 
> hosting of services?" 
> 
> I would imagine the demographic is very anti-cloud. I can't imagine anything 
> worse than running critical infrastructure in the cloud.
> 
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> http://www.midwest-ix.com
> 
> -------------------------
> 
> FROM: "Jawaid Bazyar via VoiceOps" <[email protected]>
> TO: "Ethan Clay" <[email protected]>
> CC: "Voiceops" <[email protected]>
> SENT: Tuesday, August 13, 2024 3:19:03 PM
> SUBJECT: Re: [VoiceOps] Acquire MetaSwitch
> 
> "Pretty much the same, but everything is over SDWAN get to the meta. So if 
> the CO loses Internet or experiences Internet packet loss, all voice services 
> will be impacted. 
> 
> Very dystopian, but I think that's the future for rural ILECs" 
> 
> OK, so one thing I'm hearing here, is concern for "survivability" where you 
> can at least still maintain local calling even if WAN goes down. (The 
> internet never goes down does it? ;-) 
> 
> Of course 911 availability requirements are a key element of this, but, "the 
> internet is down" is also bad news for any business in your town. 
> 
> Do rural operators WANT to keep running expensive local switches? Or, would 
> cloud be more attractive if there was survivability? i.e., limited local 
> hosting of services? 
> 
> Aside from internet outage taking out all phones, there is also cloud 
> outages. Seems like a multi-cloud operation would be preferable to one that 
> relies on a single cloud? 
> 
> Jawaid 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at 4:10 PM Ethan Clay via VoiceOps 
> <[email protected]> wrote: 
> 
> I think the new model is going to be: 
> TDM Trunk media gateway to IP 
> FXS to IP 
> ONT to IP 
> SDWAN to Azure where logic is done 
> Monthly subscription for switching 
> 
> Pretty much the same, but everything is over SDWAN get to the meta. So if the 
> CO loses Internet or experiences Internet packet loss, all voice services 
> will be impacted. 
> 
> Very dystopian, but I think that's the future for rural ILECs 
> 
> Best, 
> Ethan Clay 
> 
> ---- On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 15:50:07 -0400 
> [email protected]<[email protected]> wrote ---- 
> 
> I don't think it's getting run over by AI. Peter R called it; it's about 
> welding everyone to Azure and Teams. 
> -- 
> Sent from mobile, apologies for brevity and errors. 
> 
> On Aug 13, 2024, at 3:46 PM, Jeff Brower via VoiceOps <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> "The telecommunications industry remains a priority industry for Microsoft"
> 
> that is questionable. Like other areas getting run over by AI, priorities are 
> shifting. Maybe they expect that if their AI gets smart enough, it can solve 
> telecom use cases anyway :-)
> 
> Quoting Jawaid Bazyar via VoiceOps <[email protected]>: 
> 
> "Azure for Operators" is what Microsoft was calling the Metaswitch products. 
> 
> This went out a couple months ago: 
> 
> --- 
> 
> We are reaching out to customers of our Azure for Operators portfolio, which 
> includes products we acquired from Affirmed Networks and Metaswitch Networks, 
> to explain recent updates to our portfolio. 
> 
> In 2020, we announced our Azure for Operators initiative.  As part of this 
> effort, we acquired Affirmed Networks, Metaswitch Networks, and IP from AT&T 
> to acquire "Telco DNA" that would enhance our operational / technical 
> engineering skills for building a carrier grade platform.  As these 
> acquisitions came together with Azure, we created Azure Operator Nexus - a 
> carrier grade, hybrid cloud platform.  We are moving Azure Operator Nexus 
> into our broader Azure Edge and Platform portfolio and continue to service 
> operators. 
> 
> Based on customer demand, the Azure for Operators initiative also focused on 
> automation and analytics capabilities as early products.  Given the 
> acceleration of Microsoft's AI capabilities overall, we are now aligning 
> these early efforts with Microsoft's broader portfolio. 
> 
> As we advance our platform and AI capabilities, we are shifting our focus 
> from the Network Function layer to partnerships with industry leaders of 
> these capabilities. We will fulfill all our contractual obligations to 
> existing customers and we will be consistent with published end-of-life 
> policies.  We will not expand our customer base for Microsoft's Network 
> Functions, including the former Metaswitch and Affirmed Networks software 
> products. 
> 
> The telecommunications industry remains a priority industry for Microsoft.  
> We will continue to empower telecommunications organizations to achieve more 
> through a trusted and secure platform built to elevate customer experiences, 
> streamline enterprise operations and business support systems, accelerate 
> network transformation, reinvent product innovation and monetization, and 
> build a secure data-driven business. 
> 
> We appreciate the importance our products provide in supporting your network. 
>  We also appreciate the long-term planning that network development requires, 
> so we will communicate our roadmap plans at the earliest opportunity.  It is 
> important to note that these changes do not require immediate action from you 
> today, nor do they change any agreement that you have in place with 
> Microsoft.  We will continue to meet all customer contractual commitments. 
> 
> If you have any questions, please contact: AFO Sales Questions 
> [email protected]. 
> 
> Thank you. 
> 
> FAQ 
> 
> Q:  IS THERE ANY ACTION I NEED TO TAKE TODAY?  WHEN WILL YOU HAVE MORE 
> DETAILS TO SHARE ABOUT RETIREMENT DATES (AZURE SERVICES) OR END OF LIFE DATES 
> (METASWITCH NETWORKS & AFFIRMED NETWORKS PRODUCTS)? 
> 
> A:  We will continue to meet all customer contractual commitments and be 
> consistent with published end-of-life policies.  We also appreciate the 
> long-term planning that network development requires, so we will communicate 
> our roadmap plans at the earliest opportunity. 
> 
> Q:  WILL YOU STILL SUPPORT OUR CLOUD AND AI TRANSFORMATION? 
> 
> A:  Yes, Microsoft is refining the offers we provide to operators to reflect 
> the strong demand for cloud and AI based solutions. 
> 
> Q:  IF YOU ARE ANNOUNCING AN END OF SALE FOR THE AFFIRMED NETWORK AND 
> METASWITCH NETWORK PRODUCTS FOR NEW CUSTOMERS AND NET NEW DEPLOYMENTS, WHAT 
> DOES THIS MEAN FOR MY EXISTING SERVICE? 
> 
> * We will meet all existing customer contractual obligations.
> * We will continue to maintain the software to provide security patches and 
> bug fixes.  We highly recommend that customers follow standard security 
> practices and upgrade to the latest releases.
> * We will provide support consistent with existing contracts.
> * We will continue to offer project level support / maintenance services on a 
> case-by-case basis (as we do today).
> * We will support the expansion of volumes of current deployments.
> * We will not expand the customer base / add new customers.
> * We will not expand to entirely new deployments for existing customers 
> (e.g., launching for a new OpCo or OpCo not currently deployed) where the new 
> deployment is not already contractually committed.
> * We will not expand or offer new feature sets beyond those that have already 
> been committed.
> 
> Q:  WHAT ARE YOU ANNOUNCING FOR THE AZURE FOR OPERATORS PRODUCTS? 
> 
> A:   Here is a summary of these changes: 
> 
> * We promoted Azure Operator Nexus to Azure's Edge and Platform portfolio and 
> will continue to sell it.
> * We will continue to support Azure Programmable Connectivity.
> * We will support existing customers of Azure Operator Insights / AIOps 
> Copilot, but we will not accept new customers.  Microsoft Fabric will address 
> this functionality.
> * We will no longer add new customers for: Azure Communication Gateway (ACG), 
> Azure Operator Insights (AOI), Azure Private 5G Core (AP5GC), Affirmed Mobile 
> Content Cloud (MCC), Affirmed UnityCloud (UC), Metaswitch Rhino TAS, and 
> Metaswitch Perimeta SBC.  If you have a customer who is in the process of 
> onboarding, please contact the appropriate In-flight Projects contact: 
> [email protected] (APAC and EMEA) or [email protected] 
> (Americas).
> * We will not accept more preview candidates for: Azure Operator Call 
> Protection (AOCP) and Azure Operator 5G Core (AO5GC), and we will not move 
> these services to General Availability.
> 
> Q:  WHAT IS NEXT AFTER YOU STOP SELLING A PRODUCT, AND HOW WILL YOU MANAGE 
> THESE PRODUCTS? 
> 
> A:  We will continue to support these products in accordance with our 
> existing customer commitments.  We will eventually retire these services in 
> accordance with our lifecycle policies.  In advance of retirement, we will 
> provide notification as well as details on transition recommendations.  We 
> are committed to supporting you through this transition. 
> 
> Here are the current plans for each product, but plans may evolve as we work 
> with customers: 
> 
> * AZURE COMMUNICATION GATEWAY (ACG) - We will publish a transition roadmap to 
> recommend options to migrate off these services to partner solutions when the 
> service is retired.
> * AZURE OPERATOR INSIGHTS (AOI) - We will work with customers to align this 
> service to Microsoft Fabric before the service is retired.
> * AZURE OPERATOR 5G CORE (AO5GC)  - We will not move this product from Public 
> Preview to GA
> * AZURE PRIVATE 5G CORE (AP5GC) - We will provide options to adopt services 
> using partner solutions before the service is retired.
> * AZURE OPERATOR CALL PROTECTION (AOCP) - We will not move this product from 
> Private Preview to GA.  Operators may still use existing Microsoft tooling 
> and partner solutions to create a similar solution.
> * AFFIRMED MOBILE CONTENT CLOUD (MCC) - We will meet obligations as defined 
> above until product End of Life.
> * AFFIRMED UNITYCLOUD (UC) - We will meet obligations as defined above and 
> move to product End of Life.
> * METASWITCH RHINO TAS - We will meet obligations as defined above until 
> product End of Life.
> * METASWITCH PERIMETA SBC - We will meet obligations as defined above until 
> product End of Life.
> 
> Q:  IS MICROSOFT EXITING THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS INDUSTRY? 
> 
> A:  No.  Microsoft remains fully committed to supporting the 
> telecommunications industry by empowering them to achieve more with the power 
> of Cloud and AI.  The changes to the Azure for Operator portfolio reflect 
> customer demand and enable us to focus on the technologies that drive the 
> most value for our customers and partners. 
> 
> Q:  IF THESE CHANGES IMPACTED MY CONTACTS AT MICROSOFT, WHO CAN I CONTACT? 
> 
> A:  We apologize for any inconvenience personnel changes have caused you.  
> Please reach out to your assigned Microsoft Account Executive.  For issues 
> requiring escalation, you may contact the following:  
> 
> Questions / inquiries:                                                        
> [email protected] 
> 
> Industry Lead Sponsor:                                           
> [email protected] 
> 
> Support Issues:                                                          
> [email protected]  
> 
> In-flight Projects (APAC and EMEA)                     
> [email protected] 
> 
> In-flight Projects (Americas):                                 
> [email protected] 
> 
> Purchase Orders:                                                      
> [email protected]  
> 
> Executive Escalation:                                          
> [email protected] 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at 8:41 AM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: 
> 
> "Given the MetaSwitch products are no longer sold, and Microsoft is EOLing 
> them, and not taking new support contracts..." 
> 
> That's news to me.
> 
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> http://www.midwest-ix.com
> 
> -------------------------
> 
> FROM: "Jawaid Bazyar via VoiceOps" <[email protected]>
> TO: "voiceops" <[email protected]>
> SENT: Tuesday, August 13, 2024 7:23:05 AM
> SUBJECT: [VoiceOps] Acquire MetaSwitch
> 
> Hello, 
> 
> We are in the market to acquire / take over a MetaSwitch CFS. In particular, 
> we're looking for the virtual edition that runs purely in VMWare. 
> 
> The components we'd need are: 
> CFS 
> MRS (Media Resource Server) 
> Perimeta 
> SAS (Service Assurance Server) 
> MetaView Server 
> 
> These are fairly common components. 
> 
> Given the MetaSwitch products are no longer sold, and Microsoft is EOLing 
> them, and not taking new support contracts, we're not talking about a big 
> cash up front kind of deal, but, instead a revenue share kind of arrangement. 
> 
> Anyone that has one and is interested, contact me directly off-list. 
> 
> Cheers, 
> 
> Jawaid 
> 
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