> -----Original Message-----
> Isn't anyone else at least a little disappointed with these
> "shutdown-and-I-really-mean-it-this-time-comma-dammit" 
> approaches? When
> there are processes running on my machines that don't or can't honor
> shutdown requests, I kinda wanna know about it.

Easy: Does the label show any Micro$oft, then you'd expect it and be told
you cannot overrule it.

> 
> I have some vague memory of someone mentioning services 
> dependencies when
> this topic last appeared here. Has anyone had any success 
> specifying that
> everything that the VNC service doesn't depend on depends on the VNC
> service? Wouldn't this postpone VNC's shutdown as late as 
> practical in the
> shutdown sequence? Or maybe this would weave VNC too tightly 
> into the system
> tapestry for most people's tastes.

I'd say, can we hook WinVNC server to this sam "No-I-Donnot-want-to-die"
feature. Best to hook it in first and last to be sure it's the last one to
go down.

> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alex K. Angelopoulos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 6:18 PM
> Subject: Forced Shutdown of Windows NT/2K Systems
> 
> 
> > As a general rule, I would suggest that it is a good idea to get a
> shutdown
> > tool installed for NT4 and Win2k, and then use that when it 
> is necessary
> to
> > do a remote reboot - the point made earlier by Mike Miller 
> and Tony Caduto
> > about the lack of an integral tool for forcing shutdown produces
> significant
> > issues with remote administration.
> >
> > (This actually reminds me of an old Mark Minasi line.  At 
> seminars he used
> > to say that you need one specific tool for remote administration of
> Windows
> > NT: a plane ticket.)
> >
> > I would suggest that part of the NT install/config process for
> > administrators should involve adding specific small tools.  
> When setting
> up
> > remote control on NT 4/2000, I would suggest getting Sysinternals'
> > psshutdown and putting it on the system.  It's a 14KiB free 
> download.  URL
> > for it is:
> >
> > http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/psshutdown.shtml
> >
> >
> > A good general command line to use for it is:
> >
> > psshutdown -f -r -l
> >
> > *DO NOT* forget the -r.
> > -f forces shutdown; -r says to reboot after shutdown; -l 
> specifies the
> local
> > system.  It defaults to waiting 20 seconds before 
> rebooting, and can be
> > aborted via
> >
> > psshutdown -a
> >
> > I've made it a practice in the past to put a batch file 
> with the standard
> > options in my path so I could quickly access it.  On systems with
> > significant resource starvation I even include a couple of 
> preliminary
> lines
> > which shut dwon the print spooler, IIS, and  any other standard
> non-critical
> > but memory-hungry services before initiating shutdown - 
> then *always*
> > rebooted via the batch file.
> > 
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