Fair enough. What can I say. I was trying to help you from being the target of legal proceedings, but you obviously do not care. Wether I knew how to fix it or not, the issue was designed to help you to not be sued. Why should I care any further. I only commented on the web site at the end, but that is my personal opinion. Granted, nothing to do with the list.
Wether it is view or control, it is still illegal if the user is not aware of the fact that they are being watched. Would the company be happy for you to see your annual report as the secretary is typing it up? Would you be happy that anyone else could see your annual report? Would the management be happy that helpdesk could watch management in confidence reports being typed up? For this, you do not need for the screen to remain the same background. I am afraid that with what you have said so far doesn't quite add up. All I can suggest is that your company pay you to go onto a course to hack the registry. I could help if I see the hack, but where workforce and data protection rights are involved. I will not be a party to it, and I suggest anyone else here should also resist it. Regards. Dave Colliver. ~~ All I ask is a chance to prove that money can't make me happy. Collectible dolls from http://www.collectorsdolls.com Web design? Web hosting? http://www.revilloc.com is the answer. Tips, tricks and articles for programmers of all languages on http://www.sourcecodecorner.com Planning a wedding? http://www.bmcweddings.com Advertise your car for free on http://www.drivingseat.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 12:29 PM Subject: Re: disabled wallpaper feature > as i said before it would be a viewing only... so i wouldn't be able to take > control of the PC... just see what was on the screen at the time. > > if you didn't know the answer in the first place, why did you bother wasting > not my time but your own time by replying. > > as this is a call centre environment where telephone calls are monitored we > are extending this to PC usage as well.. where no personal use of the PCs is > allowed at all (this included during lunch, after hours etc), but as i said > it is VIEW mode only, and not in control mode. > > finally, why did u bother to comment on the website... this is a VNC mailing > list and whether or not the web design appeals to you as an individual is of > no real interest to either myself or the rest of the users on this list (i > suspect this to be the case). > > thankyou for you correspondance, however, it will be filed approptiately > > > > > David Colliver writes: > > > Hi, > > > > I don't want to get into a flame war with this. I don't know how to do the > > wallpaper feature, however, I believe you will be treading on dodgy ground > > if you apply this. > > > > Sure, you can have a policy in place, but the workforce have a legal right. > > You can log information, but you cannot read their emails without a court > > order. The same as with spying. (You mentioned that the wallpaper > > disappearing defeats the object). Your workforce have a right to privacy. If > > it is used as an admin tool, then why do you need to stop the wallpaper > > changing? How do your workforce know of they are being watched? It may be in > > your policy, but it is not within the law. > > > > Many people will use full screen, so they won't see the wallpaper change > > anyway. Non savvy users will not know that wallpaper being removed is due to > > them being spied upon. > > > > Sure, you can use the logs as evidence, read emails with a court order, but > > if it is internet pages you are looking for, then just look in the temporary > > internet files folder or their history. (You would be treading on dodgy > > ground with this as well). > > > > Your users will need to give their permission which cannot be obtained user > > duress (such as a contract of employment) to view their screens. Many > > companies allow their PCs to be used during lunchtime or after work. These > > can be for updating CVs, personal email (web mail, such as what you are > > doing right now) or writing intimate love letters. > > > > If you have proxy logs telling you that someone is looking at unsavoury > > sites, then you may be able to gather more evidence after the event, such as > > looking at the web-cache. (Incidentally, the proxy usually caches as well). > > > > Personally, If I was asked by a company to do this, I would refuse, even if > > it meant my contract. This is violating your rights and would be enough for > > a case of unfair dismissal. It would also mean that you could be very well > > implicated in a legal argument for being a party to this. I have actually > > gone as far as saying no to a company on a project on the grounds of data > > protection, which the companies own data protection people upheld. > > > > Get legal advice to do what your company are asking you to do. > > > > Incidentally, the flash on your website is distracting. In my opinion, it > > doesn't do anything to enhance your site. > > > > Regards. > > Dave Colliver. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 11:26 AM > > Subject: Re: disabled wallpaper feature > > > > > >> What information would u like to know.... > >> > >> We have included VNC within all the windows 2000 desktops within the > > company > >> as a remote admin tool. As part of the acceptable use policy within the > >> company the users know what they can and can't do on the company PCs. The > >> icon is running in the task-bar so they know that the PCs can be monitored > >> or connected to as and when required. > >> > >> We are wanting to use this combined with the proxy logs to enforce > >> acceptable use of company resources. > >> > >> I see you have questioned where i sent the email from. Well obviously I am > >> not subscribed to the VNC mailing using my corporate email account that is > >> why I sent it from my home account. > >> > >> However, if you wish to contact me using my corporate account then feel > > free > >> to email me on [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> All I am asking is how to enable a feature of the software that was a > >> default option in previous versions. Nothing too sinister in that > >> > >> > >> David Colliver writes: > >> > >> > I would be wary of this. > >> > > >> > 1. The email address is from a free internet provider. > >> > 2. If he has the icon turned off as well as this, then it may be for > > more > >> > suspicious activity. > >> > 3. As I understand, this sort of workplace monitoring is illegal in the > > UK. > >> > Only authorised connections, where the user is aware of the connection > >> > happening, and has given permission (i.e. for fault finding) is allowed. > >> > > >> > Methinks this is not quite legitimate. I don't know how to do it, but > > even > >> > if I did, before I would give any answers, I would need more > > information. > >> > > >> > Regards. > >> > David Colliver. > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 10:12 AM > >> > Subject: disabled wallpaper feature > >> > > >> > > >> >> i am using v3.3.3r9 > >> >> > >> >> i know that it disables the wallpaper on the pc i am connecting to.. > > and > >> >> then enables it again when i disconnect.. > >> >> > >> >> the question is.. how do i disable this feature so that the wallpaper > >> >> doesn't get turned off at all ? > >> >> > >> >> the reason i ask is that we use VNC to monitor users dekstops and at > > the > >> >> moment they know when we do it as the wallpaper changes... we would > > prefer > >> >> them not to know this as it kinda defeats the purpose of using it as a > >> >> monitoring tool. > >> >> > >> >> i had a look at the vnc website and it mentions a registry tweek, but i > >> >> wasn't sure what exactly to do there... can anyone give a step-by-step > >> > guide > >> >> to do this ?? > >> >> > >> >> thanx > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: > >> >> 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > >> >> See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> > To download your own free RevilloC mailserver, visit > > http://www.revilloc.com/mailserver > >> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: > >> > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > >> > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: > >> 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > >> See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > To download your own free RevilloC mailserver, visit http://www.revilloc.com/mailserver > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: > > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To download your own free RevilloC mailserver, visit http://www.revilloc.com/mailserver ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------
