James,

>>Are you sure that the details you've given below are correct?  According
to
>>what you've specified you have:
It is not a correct IP addresses. Its just an example. but i am sure that
both the machines are in same network through wired but not throug wireless.

>>Your problem doesn't appear to be anything specific to VNC, since it's a
>>more general problem with the setup of your network.
You are right. because if i remove wired connection cable then it is
connecting successfuly via wireless IP address.

I think i need to change my network architecture to make this working.

Thanks,
Paresh



On 7/14/08, James Weatherall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Paresh,
>
> Are you sure that the details you've given below are correct?  According to
> what you've specified you have:
>
> Machine X:
> Wired    IP 148.88.162.134, netmask 255.255.252.0 => subnet 148.88.160.0
> Wireless IP 148.88.163.239, netmask 255.255.192.0 => subnet 148.88.128.0
>
> Machine Y:
> Wired    IP 148.88.172.239, netmask 255.255.252.0 => subnet 148.88.172.0
>
> Ignoring the wireless for a moment, machine X and machine Y are on
> different
> subnets, and so cannot communicate directly as you describe in (3).
>
> The wireless link has a different netmask, which will cause things to
> behave
> unreliably - over the wireless link X thinks that Y is on the same subnet,
> but Y doesn't think that, and so will try route packets back to X via a
> gateway.
>
> Your problem doesn't appear to be anything specific to VNC, since it's a
> more general problem with the setup of your network.
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> Wez @ RealVNC Ltd
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of paresh masani
> > Sent: 14 July 2008 11:26
> > To: Seak, Teng-Fong
> > Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com
> > Subject: Re: VNC server will not listen on interface that has
> > been added after VNC Service started
> >
> > Hi Seak,
> >
> > I got the exact output seauence about this problem. Please
> > refer the following steps that i performed. Please note that
> > wireless packates gone through the firewall.
> >
> >            1. Machine X has the two interface wired IP:
> > 148.88.162.134netmask:
> > 255.255.252.0 and Wireless: 148.88.163.239 netmask:255.255.192.0
> >            2. Machine Y has one interface  wired IP:
> > 148.88.172.239 netmask:
> > 255.255.252.0
> >            3. Machne Y tries to take VNC of machine X via
> > wired IP then it is working fine. For this the packates will
> > not goes even to router also instead communication can be
> > taken place via access switch as both machine are in same network.
> >            4. Machine Y tries to take VNC of machine X via
> > wireless IP then I could see the following situation using
> > Ethereal packat tracer:
> >                          - On machine Y I could see the
> > packate SYN sent to machine X using wireless IP
> >                          - On machine X i could see that
> > packate SYN came from machine Y
> >                          - machine X replied SYN ACK via
> > wired connection( not via wireless :-( )
> >                          - machine Y got the response SYN ACK
> > packate from machine X
> >                          - machine Y sending RST packate to
> > machine X and this process get repeated 2 times and then VNC
> > says connection times out.
> >             5. If i removed wired connection cable then it is
> > connecting successfuly.
> >
> > I think here firewall rejecting the packates from machine Y
> > towards the wireless as firewall assume that only packates
> > going but there is no incoming packate from machine X(because
> > machine X replying via wired connection).
> >
> >            Could you please help me on how to make this working.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Paresh
> >
> >
> >  On 6/30/08, Seak, Teng-Fong
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><[EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >     Well, there was no firewall drawn in your network
> > topology in that
> > > visio file.  Anyway, admitting that you want to enforce security
> > > measure, but you shouldn't make your networks like that.
> > >
> > >     Just put two disjoint/mutually exclusive network (addresses) to
> > > avoid problem.  (Cf some network books.)
> > >
> > >     I've no idea what you mean by "source machine replying
> > ..."  One
> > > thing is sure, your router is lost by your config.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:31 PM, paresh masani
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>   I really don't know why you have to specified two
> > (supposedly)
> > > >>>different network addresses for your wired and wireless
> > connections.
> > > > This has been done intensionally because of security reason. The
> > > connection
> > > > requests comes from wireless IP will be gone through FireWall and
> > > > for
> > > Wired
> > > > firewall does not needed.
> > > >
> > > > Here I am not understanding why the source machine is
> > > replying(presumably)
> > > > via wired IP while the request came from the wireless IP.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Paresh
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 6/30/08, Seak, Teng-Fong
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>     Oh man, you've totally screwed up the subnet
> > addresses (and the
> > > >> masks)!  I don't have your Visio file any more, and thus I can't
> > > >> remember which of your networks has the x.y.5.0 address
> > and which
> > > >> has the x.y.0.0 address, but the fact that one of your
> > subnet masks
> > > >> includes the other (and similar network addresses), it's very
> > > >> likely that your router lost track of what to do.
> > > >>
> > > >>     Actually, suppose you have the x.y.0.0 for your
> > wired connection.
> > > >> Using the subnet masks, you have:
> > > >> x.y.0.0/255.255.252.0 ==> x.y.0.0 - x.y.3.255
> > x.y.5.0/255.255.192.0
> > > >> ==> x.y.0.0 - x.y.63.255
> > > >>
> > > >>     You see, your wired connection is a part of your wireless
> > > >> connections!  You're not supposed to do that (please
> > read network
> > > >> reference book on this).
> > > >>
> > > >>     I really don't know why you have to specified two
> > (supposedly)
> > > >> different network addresses for your wired and wireless
> > connections.
> > > >> I mean, I've setup about 6 wifi routers, and none of
> > them needs me
> > > >> to do so.  Both wired and wireless use the same network
> > address and
> > > >> network mask.
> > > >>
> > > >>     HTH
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 1:06 PM, paresh masani
> > > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > Hmmm...You are right. We use different net-masks(255.255.252.0
> > > >> > for wired, 255.255.192.0 for wireless) for both wired and
> > > >> > wire-less connections.
> > > >> > And also default gateways are different for both. I think the
> > > >> > main reason having this problem is because of two different
> > > >> > access point. I could see that when I am taking VNC of machine
> > > >> > using wire-less IP then
> > > destination
> > > >> > machine showing incoming request saying SYN_RCVD state but I
> > > >> > think it
> > > is
> > > >> > replying to source machine via wired connection and source
> > > >> > machine is rejecting the response as it did not send
> > any packat
> > > >> > to specified
> > > wired
> > > >> > IP.
> > > >> > What do you say? This might be problem.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Thanks,
> > > >> > Paresh
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On 6/23/08, Seak, Teng-Fong
> > > >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>     I can't give you the answer since you didn't specify the
> > > >> >> subnet mask used in your network.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>     If I take it as 255.255.0.0, then yes, yours is
> > the same as
> > > mine.
> > > >> >> Well, almost, actually.  The computer on which VNC viewer is
> > > >> >> running only has wired connection; it has no wireless NIC.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>     If I take it as 255.255.255.0, then no, they're different.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>     Actually, I was talking about logical topology.  Not
> > > >> >> physical topology.  And as a matter of fact, I don't think
> > > >> >> having one access point or two access points would
> > change anything.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:08 AM, paresh masani
> > > >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >> >> wrote:
> > > >> >> > Thanks for doing testing. Could you please make
> > sure that the
> > > network
> > > >> >> > topology you have tested and my network's topology(attached
> > > >> >> > file)
> > > is
> > > >> >> > same.
> > > >> >> > Please check all the three cases and Please let me know if
> > > >> >> > real VNC will work in all cases or not.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Thanks,
> > > >> >> > Paresh
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