Come on guys, When the software has to come out, it has to come out. When people expect a release it has to be. It happened, there are bugs and, if we look back at previous years, the bugs will be fixed. What is the big deal in waiting a couple of weeks to download the new thing. If you're not ready to deal with the bugs, just wait. If you are the type of person who can deal with the work arounds, enjoy, we need you to be the ones to go ahead and report all the bugs so they can be fixed while the rest of us sit back and continue to use IOS 7 for a couple of weeks.
Why bother to publicly bash Apple for the sake of some bugs. If they didn't try hard to give us accessibility, they wouldn't have accessibility bugs. It's a lot more productive to report the errors to Apple than to sit here and bitch about them. Ron & Danvers -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 1:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: IOS 8 Released That is not true. Windows and Android have tons of bugs and the sighted world puts up with them. On 9/17/14, Neal Ewers <[email protected]> wrote: > If people who are sighted had this many bugs with the new OS, Apple > would not have released it. I am tired of developers thinking that > they can release something to the public and then, if they have time, > fix the bugs that make the device much less stable for people who have > a disability. I know, at one time, Apple was in the forefront of > accessibility. I gave them high praise and they deserved it. But, as > some of my Mac user friends have said, they seem to have lately been > resting on their former reputation and less on getting it right the > first time. Obviously, they knew about all of these iOS bugs before > release. This is why they have beta testers who are blind and have low > vision. Yet, they decided that was more important to get it to people > who see, than to wait until it was just as ready for people who are > blind or have limited vision. Shame, shame, shame on you Apple, I > thought you were a better company than that. Put your development > where your mouth is and fix the many problem issues in iOS 8. > Otherwise, don't claim to be such a friend of people who are disabled. > > Neal > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Charles Rivard > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:32 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: IOS 8 Released > > I'm sure that we can. All we have to do is to wait until they can get > it to us. I will patiently wait. > > --- > Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're > finished, you! really! are! finished! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Diakogeorgiou" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 11:58 AM > Subject: IOS 8 Released > > > Since IOS is released can we get info from beta testers? > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. 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