All a moot point for me. The stupid thing requires me to have 5.8gb free. Won't happen until I can steal a bigger phone. 😏
Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter: @lpnalda > On Sep 17, 2014, at 1:14 PM, "Neal Ewers" <[email protected]> wrote: > > I did not say it had to be perfect, but consider this. > If you were developing a popular product that would drastically decrease > heart attacks, would you release it first with lots of bugs for people who > were blind just because it worked for people who see. Would your company > philosophy be that as long as it works for sighted people it will be > released even though it is not yet ready for people who are blind? I don't > expect it to be perfect, but I see no reason why it is not just as stable > for me as it is for my wife. Why am I assumed to be impatient if I think > people who are blind should have equal access? Equal access means it works > equally for both populations when it is released. I think that is a > reasonable assumption. > > By the way, I did send a similar email to apple. > > Neal > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Charles Rivard > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 1:01 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: IOS 8 Released > > I think that you are far, far, far too impatient. You expect it to work > perfectly, the very first time out of the box, not even considering all of > the work it has taken to produce such a major and complicated overhaul. Did > version 7.0 work perfectly the first time? Not hardly. It took a while to > get the bugs worked out, but they did it. So, rather than immediately whine > and complain, how about giving them a bit of slack? Give them time to work > the bugs out, just like they did after releasing version 7.0? > > --- > Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, > you! really! are! finished! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Neal Ewers" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:49 PM > Subject: RE: IOS 8 Released > > > If people who are sighted had this many bugs with the new OS, Apple would > not have released it. I am tired of developers thinking that they can > release something to the public and then, if they have time, fix the bugs > that make the device much less stable for people who have a disability. I > know, at one time, Apple was in the forefront of accessibility. I gave them > high praise and they deserved it. But, as some of my Mac user friends have > said, they seem to have lately been resting on their former reputation and > less on getting it right the first time. Obviously, they knew about all of > these iOS bugs before release. This is why they have beta testers who are > blind and have low vision. Yet, they decided that was more important to get > it to people who see, than to wait until it was just as ready for people who > are blind or have limited vision. Shame, shame, shame on you Apple, I > thought you were a better company than that. Put your development where your > mouth is and fix the many problem issues in iOS 8. Otherwise, don't claim to > be such a friend of people who are disabled. > > Neal > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Charles Rivard > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:32 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: IOS 8 Released > > I'm sure that we can. All we have to do is to wait until they can get it to > us. I will patiently wait. > > --- > Be positive! 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