Yes, and, in such a way that it is always requesting my location, even when the app is closed and out of the app switcher.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: [email protected] Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 17 Mar 2014, at 10:05, Chris Apple boy <[email protected]> wrote: > > Sorry but why would Dropbox want your location anyway! > > Regards Chris > > Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! > >> On 16/03/2014 20:54, David Chittenden wrote: >> After reading your message, I went in to settings, general, background with >> fresh, and turned it back on. I then check each out to determine which ones >> will keep in location services on. The surprising one for me is dropbox. >> When I turned Dropbox off, location services disappeared from my status bar. >> >> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >> Email: [email protected] >> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 17 Mar 2014, at 9:44, Katey Glass <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Good Afternoon All, >>> >>> I just wanted to let you know that this location services "bug" of staying >>> on constantly doesn't just effect us VoiceOver users. In fact, It hadn't >>> affected me (a VO user) but did affect my fiance who's not a VO user. >>> >>> I first went to Privacy> Location services (I turned on VO to do this BTW) >>> >>> I noticed that not only was FourSquare on, but it said it was currently >>> using his current location despite the fact it wasn't in his app switcher. >>> So I turned off the phone and back on and location services was still in >>> the status line. >>> >>> I did a hard boot, holding the power button & the home button to no avail. >>> >>> So I googled location services constantly running and found the following >>> forum >>> >>> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5984935 >>> >>> There it told me to go to the following: >>> >>> You can either turn off background refresh of GPS altogether or turn off >>> the individual apps that use GPS all the time like google maps, Foursquare, >>> or Facebook. They will still be able to use GPS when you open them, but >>> will not keep the GPS running in the background when the app is closed. >>> For some reason, after I updated to 7.1, this was activated and had all the >>> apps updating in the background even when they were closed. >>> >>> Now I have no problems. GPS and location services only open when I open the >>> associated app. >>> >>> This seems to fix it, I turned off FourSquare as directed above and >>> suddenly the location services icon only shows up when FourSquare is >>> launched as it does on my phone, but when FS is taken out of the app >>> switcher the location Services goes off in the status line. >>> >>> Both my fiance and I have iPhone 5s and are both running iOS 7.1. >>> >>> I hope this helps someone out there. >>> >>> Katey >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On Mar 16, 2014, at 3:56 PM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> No, any app that is running in the foreground which needs location >>>> services, automatically turns on GPS. This just keeps apps from monitoring >>>> when they are not open in the foreground. >>>> >>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>>> Email: [email protected] >>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On 17 Mar 2014, at 8:44, "Andy Baracco" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> But if you do this, won't that render any app that needs location >>>>> services, such as a GPS app useless? >>>>> >>>>> Andy >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- From: David Chittenden >>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:04 AM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: Battery draining >>>>> >>>>> The only way I am able to get location services to disappear from the >>>>> status bar is to completely disable background app refresh. I attempted >>>>> it again last night with the same result after a reboot and a warm reset. >>>>> >>>>> Go to settings, general, background app refresh. >>>>> >>>>> Again, this appears to only affect VO users, so expect it to take more >>>>> time before the error is resolved. Apple only rushes fixes for critical >>>>> situations that affect significant numbers of users, and VO users are >>>>> less than 1% of the user base. Every email to >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> helps because more emails about the same issue means they know more >>>>> people have the problem, so they will increase the resources directed >>>>> toward fixing the problem. >>>>> >>>>> As for those who complain that Apple should fix it now, please remember >>>>> back to the wonderful days of the extremely expensive specialised >>>>> note-taker. It usually took the manufacturer between six months and a >>>>> year between updates, and we always had to live with the problem until >>>>> then, if the problem was even fixed. Oh, and let's not forget, some >>>>> devices could not be upgraded without sending them back to the >>>>> manufacturer. Finally, the annual upgrade fee was usually rather >>>>> significant. >>>>> >>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>>>> Email: [email protected] >>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On 17 Mar 2014, at 1:53, Eileen Misrahi <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi David, >>>>>> >>>>>> The battery draining problem is getting worse, so yesterday evening >>>>>> before going out I charged the phone as much as I could and timed the >>>>>> drainage. It dropped 35% in a 3 1/2 hour period of time. Hence, I will >>>>>> place my complaint to Apple accessibility. The phone was completely >>>>>> drained and dead as a doorknob when I just got up. Where can I find the >>>>>> background refresh to turn that off? I didn't totally turn off location >>>>>> services, but turned it off in apps that I didn't need to have it on. >>>>>> What else do I need to do to save on battery? Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> Eileen >>>>>>> On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:16 AM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I turned off all background refresh. It looks like location services >>>>>>> gets switched on. This causes 15-20% battery drain per hour, and the >>>>>>> GPS antenna is the only thing that is this power demanding. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also, it looks as though this is only happening to people running VO. >>>>>>> None of my sighted friends are having the battery drain problem. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, turn off background app refresh. Also, very regularly close apps >>>>>>> from the app switcher. Finally, email accessibility so they will >>>>>>> hopefully soon test this and find the problem. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One thing we do know, Apple does repair these sorts of problems when >>>>>>> they figure out what is going on. Unfortunately, they usually don't >>>>>>> role out an update when the problem is only with VO, so we will most >>>>>>> likely be waiting a few months before the problem is resolved. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>>>>>> Email: [email protected] >>>>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 16 Mar 2014, at 17:10, david gross <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> I am using an iPhone for S. I wrote previously while I'm Wi-Fi and >>>>>>>> streaming radio I am using 16% battery per hour. I called Apple >>>>>>>> tonight they have me doing iCloud restore. It made it worse I'm now >>>>>>>> using 20% per hour. I am curious what other folks are finding in a >>>>>>>> similar situation. Apple is suggesting a new restore from the >>>>>>>> computer. I do not want to do this. 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