After reading your message, I went in to settings, general, background with 
fresh, and turned it back on. I then check each out to determine which ones 
will keep in location services on. The surprising one for me is dropbox. When I 
turned Dropbox off, location services disappeared from my status bar.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: [email protected]
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 17 Mar 2014, at 9:44, Katey Glass <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Good Afternoon All,
> 
> I just wanted to let you know that this location services "bug" of staying on 
> constantly doesn't just effect us VoiceOver users.  In fact, It hadn't 
> affected me (a VO user) but did affect my fiance who's not a VO user.  
> 
> I first went to Privacy> Location services (I turned on VO to do this BTW)
> 
> I noticed that not only was FourSquare on, but it said it was currently using 
> his current location despite the fact it wasn't in his app switcher.  So I 
> turned off the phone and back on and location services was still in the 
> status line.  
> 
> I did a hard boot, holding the power button & the home button to no avail.  
> 
> So I googled location services constantly running and found the following 
> forum
> 
> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5984935
> 
> There it told me to go to the following:
> 
> You can either turn off background refresh of GPS altogether or turn off the 
> individual apps that use GPS all the time like google maps, Foursquare, or 
> Facebook. They will still be able to use GPS when you open them, but will not 
> keep the GPS running in the background when the app is closed.
> For some reason, after I updated to 7.1, this was activated and had all the 
> apps updating in the background even when they were closed.
> 
> Now I have no problems. GPS and location services only open when I open the 
> associated app.
> 
> This seems to fix it, I turned off FourSquare as directed above and suddenly 
> the location services icon only shows up when FourSquare is launched as it 
> does on my phone, but when FS is taken out of the app switcher the location 
> Services goes off in the status line.  
> 
> Both my fiance and I have iPhone 5s and are both running iOS 7.1.  
> 
> I hope this helps someone out there.  
> 
> Katey
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Mar 16, 2014, at 3:56 PM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> No, any app that is running in the foreground which needs location services, 
>> automatically turns on GPS. This just keeps apps from monitoring when they 
>> are not open in the foreground.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: [email protected]
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 17 Mar 2014, at 8:44, "Andy Baracco" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> But if you do this, won't that render any app that needs location services, 
>>> such as a GPS app useless?
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: David Chittenden
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:04 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: Battery draining
>>> 
>>> The only way I am able to get location services to disappear from the 
>>> status bar is to completely disable background app refresh. I attempted it 
>>> again last night with the same result after a reboot and a warm reset.
>>> 
>>> Go to settings, general, background app refresh.
>>> 
>>> Again, this appears to only affect VO users, so expect it to take more time 
>>> before the error is resolved. Apple only rushes fixes for critical 
>>> situations that affect significant numbers of users, and VO users are less 
>>> than 1% of the user base. Every email to
>>> [email protected]
>>> helps because more emails about the same issue means they know more people 
>>> have the problem, so they will increase the resources directed toward 
>>> fixing the problem.
>>> 
>>> As for those who complain that Apple should fix it now, please remember 
>>> back to the wonderful days of the extremely expensive specialised 
>>> note-taker. It usually took the manufacturer between six months and a year 
>>> between updates, and we always had to live with the problem until then, if 
>>> the problem was even fixed. Oh, and let's not forget, some devices could 
>>> not be upgraded without sending them back to the manufacturer. Finally, the 
>>> annual upgrade fee was usually rather significant.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: [email protected]
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 17 Mar 2014, at 1:53, Eileen Misrahi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi David,
>>>> 
>>>> The battery draining problem is getting worse, so yesterday evening before 
>>>> going out I charged the phone as much as I could and timed the drainage. 
>>>> It dropped 35% in a 3 1/2 hour period of time. Hence, I will place my 
>>>> complaint to Apple accessibility. The phone was completely drained and 
>>>> dead as a doorknob when I just got up. Where can I find the background 
>>>> refresh to turn that off? I didn't totally turn off location services, but 
>>>> turned it off in apps that I didn't need to have it on. What else do I 
>>>> need to do to save on battery? Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Eileen
>>>>> On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:16 AM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I turned off all background refresh. It looks like location services gets 
>>>>> switched on. This causes 15-20% battery drain per hour, and the GPS 
>>>>> antenna is the only thing that is this power demanding.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also, it looks as though this is only happening to people running VO. 
>>>>> None of my sighted friends are having the battery drain problem.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So, turn off background app refresh. Also, very regularly close apps from 
>>>>> the app switcher. Finally, email accessibility so they will hopefully 
>>>>> soon test this and find the problem.
>>>>> 
>>>>> One thing we do know, Apple does repair these sorts of problems when they 
>>>>> figure out what is going on. Unfortunately, they usually don't role out 
>>>>> an update when the problem is only with VO, so we will most likely be 
>>>>> waiting a few months before the problem is resolved.
>>>>> 
>>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>>> Email: [email protected]
>>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 16 Mar 2014, at 17:10, david gross <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> I am using an iPhone for S. I wrote previously while I'm Wi-Fi and 
>>>>>> streaming radio I am using 16% battery per hour. I called Apple tonight 
>>>>>> they have me doing iCloud restore. It made it worse I'm now using 20% 
>>>>>> per hour. I am curious what other folks are finding in a similar 
>>>>>> situation. Apple is suggesting a new restore from the computer. I do not 
>>>>>> want to do this. Suggestions are appreciated.
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