Glad to hear it helped!!!!! Katey
Sent from my iPad > On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:54 PM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote: > > After reading your message, I went in to settings, general, background with > fresh, and turned it back on. I then check each out to determine which ones > will keep in location services on. The surprising one for me is dropbox. When > I turned Dropbox off, location services disappeared from my status bar. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: [email protected] > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 17 Mar 2014, at 9:44, Katey Glass <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Good Afternoon All, >> >> I just wanted to let you know that this location services "bug" of staying >> on constantly doesn't just effect us VoiceOver users. In fact, It hadn't >> affected me (a VO user) but did affect my fiance who's not a VO user. >> >> I first went to Privacy> Location services (I turned on VO to do this BTW) >> >> I noticed that not only was FourSquare on, but it said it was currently >> using his current location despite the fact it wasn't in his app switcher. >> So I turned off the phone and back on and location services was still in the >> status line. >> >> I did a hard boot, holding the power button & the home button to no avail. >> >> So I googled location services constantly running and found the following >> forum >> >> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5984935 >> >> There it told me to go to the following: >> >> You can either turn off background refresh of GPS altogether or turn off the >> individual apps that use GPS all the time like google maps, Foursquare, or >> Facebook. They will still be able to use GPS when you open them, but will >> not keep the GPS running in the background when the app is closed. >> For some reason, after I updated to 7.1, this was activated and had all the >> apps updating in the background even when they were closed. >> >> Now I have no problems. GPS and location services only open when I open the >> associated app. >> >> This seems to fix it, I turned off FourSquare as directed above and suddenly >> the location services icon only shows up when FourSquare is launched as it >> does on my phone, but when FS is taken out of the app switcher the location >> Services goes off in the status line. >> >> Both my fiance and I have iPhone 5s and are both running iOS 7.1. >> >> I hope this helps someone out there. >> >> Katey >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Mar 16, 2014, at 3:56 PM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> No, any app that is running in the foreground which needs location >>> services, automatically turns on GPS. This just keeps apps from monitoring >>> when they are not open in the foreground. >>> >>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>> Email: [email protected] >>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On 17 Mar 2014, at 8:44, "Andy Baracco" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> But if you do this, won't that render any app that needs location >>>> services, such as a GPS app useless? >>>> >>>> Andy >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- From: David Chittenden >>>> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:04 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: Battery draining >>>> >>>> The only way I am able to get location services to disappear from the >>>> status bar is to completely disable background app refresh. I attempted it >>>> again last night with the same result after a reboot and a warm reset. >>>> >>>> Go to settings, general, background app refresh. >>>> >>>> Again, this appears to only affect VO users, so expect it to take more >>>> time before the error is resolved. Apple only rushes fixes for critical >>>> situations that affect significant numbers of users, and VO users are less >>>> than 1% of the user base. Every email to >>>> [email protected] >>>> helps because more emails about the same issue means they know more people >>>> have the problem, so they will increase the resources directed toward >>>> fixing the problem. >>>> >>>> As for those who complain that Apple should fix it now, please remember >>>> back to the wonderful days of the extremely expensive specialised >>>> note-taker. It usually took the manufacturer between six months and a year >>>> between updates, and we always had to live with the problem until then, if >>>> the problem was even fixed. Oh, and let's not forget, some devices could >>>> not be upgraded without sending them back to the manufacturer. Finally, >>>> the annual upgrade fee was usually rather significant. >>>> >>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>>> Email: [email protected] >>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On 17 Mar 2014, at 1:53, Eileen Misrahi <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi David, >>>>> >>>>> The battery draining problem is getting worse, so yesterday evening >>>>> before going out I charged the phone as much as I could and timed the >>>>> drainage. It dropped 35% in a 3 1/2 hour period of time. Hence, I will >>>>> place my complaint to Apple accessibility. The phone was completely >>>>> drained and dead as a doorknob when I just got up. Where can I find the >>>>> background refresh to turn that off? I didn't totally turn off location >>>>> services, but turned it off in apps that I didn't need to have it on. >>>>> What else do I need to do to save on battery? Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Eileen >>>>>> On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:16 AM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I turned off all background refresh. It looks like location services >>>>>> gets switched on. This causes 15-20% battery drain per hour, and the GPS >>>>>> antenna is the only thing that is this power demanding. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, it looks as though this is only happening to people running VO. >>>>>> None of my sighted friends are having the battery drain problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, turn off background app refresh. Also, very regularly close apps >>>>>> from the app switcher. Finally, email accessibility so they will >>>>>> hopefully soon test this and find the problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> One thing we do know, Apple does repair these sorts of problems when >>>>>> they figure out what is going on. Unfortunately, they usually don't role >>>>>> out an update when the problem is only with VO, so we will most likely >>>>>> be waiting a few months before the problem is resolved. >>>>>> >>>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>>>>> Email: [email protected] >>>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 16 Mar 2014, at 17:10, david gross <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> I am using an iPhone for S. I wrote previously while I'm Wi-Fi and >>>>>>> streaming radio I am using 16% battery per hour. I called Apple tonight >>>>>>> they have me doing iCloud restore. It made it worse I'm now using 20% >>>>>>> per hour. I am curious what other folks are finding in a similar >>>>>>> situation. Apple is suggesting a new restore from the computer. I do >>>>>>> not want to do this. 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