Carolyn,

I just asked Siri where am I & she opened microsoft soundscape app & told me 
where I am by putting a marker on a map & reading me my current address.

Donna 
> 
> Do any of yall know, if you can ask Siri, where am I? What is this address?
> 
> The reason I'm asking is that last night, I dreamed that I was stranded 
> somewhere in Austin, Texas, and aware that I had my iPhone. But, I heard 
> people talking and got up from a bench to go ask them where I was.
> 
> Carolyn Arnold
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> danneyya...@gmail.com
> Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2025 8:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: 16, or 16E?
> 
> Siri still has trouble turning her mic off and cutting off when she's reading 
> back, in my experience.  I think it is mainly when there is background noise 
> during dictation.  So, when I'm doing anything lengthy, I go into the ap.
> Danney
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2025 8:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: 16, or 16E?
> 
> If Siri could close an app as well as open it, then I might use the open app 
> feature. I do use Siri sometimes if I want to send a very quick text message.
> Sent from my quantum phone!!
> 
>> On Mar 1, 2025, at 7:08 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Josh, I am exactly like you are about all that. I never think to have Siri 
>> open an app. It annoys me, though, when I ask Siri something, and she says 
>> here's what I found on the weg, and half the time, I xan't find whatever she 
>> found.
>> 
>> Carolyn Arnold
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2025 6:06 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: 16, or 16E?
>> 
>> Personally I just learned the original gestures which work fine for me. I 
>> never have Siri open apps when I can omen them myself and I know where the 
>> app is either on my home page or on which of my three pages the app I want 
>> is located. It is great the iPhone is so customizable.
>> 
>> Sent from my quantum phone!!
>> 
>> 
>>   On Mar 1, 2025, at 4:53 PM, Barbara Stahl <stahlredstone.0...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   
>>   You can also create your own gesture, or assign a particular gesture for 
>> going to the home screen, or opening the app switcher I prefer that method 
>> for these functions there was an email thread about how to do this a while 
>> back. I copied the method used in the email thread and use swipe left with 
>> two fingers two for the app, switcher and swipe right with two fingers to 
>> access the home screen.
>> 
>> 
>>       On Mar 1, 2025, at 12:22 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>       
>> 
>>       Marta, Thanks for the kind words on my web site,.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>       I honestly don't miss the home button.
>> 
>>       The gesture for the App Switcher or going home is not that hard with a 
>> little practice.
>> 
>>       You can use the side button for Siri much like the home button.  I 
>> pretty much only use the app switcher now to close out apps, unless I am 
>> somewhere that asking Siri to open an app is not appropriate.
>> 
>>       I mostly tell Siri to open x y z app.
>> 
>>       HTH,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>       Richard, USA,
>> 
>>       "When you come to the edge of all the light you know and are about to 
>> step off into the darkness of the unknown, faith is knowing one of two 
>> things will happen: there will be something solid to stand on or you will be 
>> taught how to fly."
>> 
>>       -- Barbara J. Winter.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>       My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ <https://www.turner42.com/>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>       From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>> Marda
>>       Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2025 9:02 AM
>>       To: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>       Subject: Re: 16, or 16E?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>       Hi, Richard.   Thanks for adding that info.  That was one of my 
>> initial feelings of frustration because you can do a lot of those things 
>> quickly with the home button (accessibility shortcut, tripple click, app 
>> switcher double click, Siri, hold, wait for the sound (or just hold for the 
>> appropriate time if you can't hear the sound which because of my hearing 
>> loss I sometimes can't) and it seemed like taking away the home button and 
>> assigning its functions to several different things was making things 
>> needlessly complicated.  But then, what do I know?  I don't know much about 
>> tech and certainly am not a designer or programmer, just a lowly end user 
>> who has gotten to like doing things a certain way but of course will adapt.  
>> Thanks for as always being so helpful and thanks too for your website which 
>> I have directed quite a few people too with happy results.
>> 
>>       Marda
>> 
>>       On 3/1/2025 10:00 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote:
>> 
>>           Hi Marta,
>> 
>>           Yes, I was just giving the default function not having read 
>> through Scott's complete email comparing the 16e and 16.
>> 
>>           But, here is all the things you can set the Action button to:
>> 
>>           Silent/Ring mode
>> 
>>           Focus
>> 
>>           Camera, Open the camera app
>> 
>>           Flashlight
>> 
>>           Voice Memo
>> 
>>           Recognize Music
>> 
>>           Magnifier
>> 
>>           Controls. )the comment here says Quickly access your favorite 
>> control.)
>> 
>>           Shortcuts, (which says Open an app or run your favorite shortcut.)
>> 
>>           Accessibility, (quickly use an accessibility feature.)
>> 
>>           No Action.
>> 
>>           I added the explanation where I thought it was useful in that 
>> list.  Note you can only have the action button do any one of those things.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>           I have a demo that I recorded on my web site for the gestures to 
>> try and help folks learn how these work.
>> 
>>           It is a few headings down on the demos page, link below.
>> 
>>           https://www.turner42.com/DEMOS.html
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>           HTH,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>           Richard, USA
>> 
>>           "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- 
>> John Wesley
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>           My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>           (sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>               On Mar 1, 2025, at 12:03 AM, Marda <marda.pian...@gmail.com> 
>> <mailto:marda.pian...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>> 
>>               
>> 
>>               But the action button can also be set up to do other things as 
>> well, right?  So if you choose not to have it function as a toggle between 
>> ring and silent modes you can have it do shortcuts like the accessibility 
>> shortcut or you can have it do other things like turn on a specific focus 
>> mode, turn airplane mode on or off or things like that.  Not sure if you can 
>> make the action button put you in the app switcher or not and I don't think 
>> you can do things like you can with the home button like double click it for 
>> the app switcher and tripple click it for the accessibility shortcut and if 
>> you don't use it to toggle between silent and ring mode I'm not sure how 
>> you'd easily do that so it doesn't seem as though it's as versatile as the 
>> home button unless there's something I'm missing which seems sad to me.  I'm 
>> not sure I understand the rationale of getting rid of a button that has 
>> multiple functions with one that can only do one thing, can't be double or 
>> tripple clicked.  I'm not sure about face ID either.  I've heard from some 
>> people that, for instance, if they wear a mask (which is sometimes still 
>> required in certain situations) it has trouble.  Also, can it really tell 
>> the difference with people like identical twins i.e. will an identical twin 
>> get access to your iPhone because it can't tell the difference in the face 
>> IDs?
>> 
>>               Marda and so on.  
>> 
>>               On 2/28/2025 8:23 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote:
>> 
>>                   The Action button replaces the switch above the volume 
>> buttons on the left side. Instead of a lever, it is a button that if you 
>> hold it in it will toggle from ring mode to silent mode. If you tap it, it 
>> tells you which mode you are in.  
>> 
>>                   The action button is about half the length of the volume 
>> button.
>> 
>>                   The button on the right is the power/lock button, and if 
>> held in, you can talk to Siri.
>> 
>>                   The 16 models that came out last fall also have a camera 
>> button on the lower half of the right side that can be used to take pictures 
>> and do other camera controls. It also works with Be My Eyes for taking a 
>> picture.
>> 
>>                   The 16e does not have that camera button.
>> 
>>                   HTH,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>                   Richard, USA
>> 
>>                   "While striving for perfection, let us do what is 
>> possible." -- John Wesley
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>                   My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>                   (sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>                   On Feb 28, 2025, at 5:17 PM, 'Curtis Delzer' via VIPhone 
>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  wrote:
>> 
>>                   I did not see this, thank you!
>> 
>>                   I do not know what that "action" button is, the right hand 
>> button on the phone for locking, etc? thanks
>> 
>>                   On 2/28/2025 2:48 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote:
>> 
>>                   I don't know if you saw the article from AppleVis.com, but 
>> here it is.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>                   Hands On with the iPhone 16e: My First Impressions
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>                   iPhone 16e availability in the U.S. is less than 24 hours 
>> away, and ahead of the launch, I was provided a unit for review.
>> 
>>                   Going into today, I was looking forward to sharing the 
>> iPhone 16e with our community, especially as there has been much 
>> anticipation and excitement on AppleVis surrounding this phone in 
>> particular. Unboxing podcasts are a lot of fun, especially when the 
>> recording goes well. And I am of the opinion that as Apple no longer sells a 
>> device with a Home Button, we should be doing everything possible to ease 
>> the transition for people who are still on older devices for whatever 
>> reason. It’s a bigger deal than you might think, especially for the everyday 
>> blind, DeafBlind, or low vision user who really relies on that Home Button 
>> as an anchor.
>> 
>>                   All in all, there is a lot to talk about with the iPhone 
>> 16e, but I wasn’t going to say any of it today. But that changed when I 
>> actually experienced the iPhone 16e for myself.
>> 
>>                   The iPhone 16e is Apple’s most affordable phone at US$599, 
>> and, to be honest, I was disappointed by the price when it was announced. I 
>> see the iPhone 16e as the iPhone for the everyday person, the person who 
>> just needs an iPhone to do the basic things. And I really was hoping Apple 
>> could get the price down to something under $500 and make that phone 
>> available to as many people as possible. On the other hand, the iPhone 16e 
>> has a lot of advanced tech (a current-generation A18 processor, Apple 
>> Intelligence, the Action Button, an all-new Apple-designed modem, just to 
>> name four); so the starting price is more understandable when you consider 
>> what all you’re getting.
>> 
>>                   Concerns about price aside, I tried to approach reviewing 
>> the iPhone 16e with an open mind. I know what I like in an iPhone, and I 
>> also know that the iPhone 16e is meant for a different type of user than me. 
>> And yet, I interact with people from all walks of life; and for many of 
>> them, all they want is a basic iPhone. So the iPhone 16e interested me at 
>> first for those reasons: Is this the modern iPhone for everyone?
>> 
>>                   As interested as I first was in the iPhone 16e, I never 
>> expected that I would personally ‘like’ it—especially after only a few hours 
>> with the device. But I do like it—a lot.
>> 
>>                   Generally, I gravitate towards the bigger phones for their 
>> battery, speaker, and bigger ‘feel’. ‘Bigger’ has always meant ‘better’ to 
>> me. But the iPhone 16e challenges my assumptions in a pretty big way, no pun 
>> intended. Contrary to my expectations, I actually really like the thing. I 
>> like the way it feels in my hand. Picking it up, holding it while on the 
>> phone, even sending messages with Braille Screen Input—it feels great. And 
>> this was unexpected to say the least.
>> 
>>                   Perhaps just as unexpected and even better than the 
>> device’s ‘hand-feel’, are the speakers. Yes, I said ‘speakers’ because both 
>> the bottom speaker and earpiece speaker are noticeably better than my 
>> $600-more-expensive iPhone 16 Pro Max. In my review of the iPhone 16 Pro 
>> Max, I shared about issues with the quality of sound output from the 
>> speakers. Other members of the community have experienced similar issues.
>> 
>>                   I am happy to report that the sound on the iPhone 16e has 
>> none of these issues. At higher volume, the iPhone 16e puts out a lot of 
>> bass for its size. (I remember my iPhone 15 Pro being similar.) But, unlike 
>> my personal iPhone 16 Pro Max, the iPhone 16e better maintains this bass at 
>> lower volumes. There is none of the dramatic fluctuation in bass with volume 
>> adjustment that I see on my iPhone 16 Pro Max, and this is a subtle—but 
>> nevertheless huge—improvement.
>> 
>>                   And it is not just the bottom speaker that is improved; 
>> the earpiece speaker has more bass as well, making the sound fuller and more 
>> natural. I was on a FaceTime audio call shortly after setting up the iPhone 
>> 16e, and I actually called the person back from my iPhone 16 Pro Max to be 
>> sure I wasn’t just imagining things. I wasn’t—the speaker quality is just 
>> better. If the speakers are important to you, you will really like the 
>> iPhone 16e.
>> 
>>                   The iPhone 16e has a 6.1-inch display, similar to recent 
>> smaller iPhones. If you have seen an iPhone 13 or 14, or their Pro 
>> counterparts, for example, the iPhone 16e’s size will be familiar to you. 
>> The iPhone 16e has the same A18 series processor as other iPhone 16 devices, 
>> and VoiceOver performance is as snappy as on my iPhone 16 Pro Max.
>> 
>>                   In the iPhone 16e, Apple has tried to make the iPhone 16 
>> experience available to more people at a lower price. The device has a lot 
>> to like: the same series of processor, support for Apple Intelligence, and 
>> other key features of the iPhone 16 family—even an Action Button. But there 
>> is no getting around the fact that the iPhone 16e’s starting price tag of 
>> US$599 is still way out of reach of a lot of people, which is both 
>> unfortunate and also a lost market opportunity for Apple. Nevertheless, 
>> everything I have seen with the iPhone 16e so far suggests that Apple may 
>> very well have a hit on its hands.
>> 
>>                   Watch this space.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>                   Article from:
>> 
>>                   
>> https://applevis.com/blog/hands-iphone-16e-my-first-impressions
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>                   Richard, USA
>> 
>>                   "While striving for perfection, let us do what is 
>> possible." -- John Wesley
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>                   My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>                   (sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c
>> 
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