Same here, Joshua. Carolyn Arnold
-----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2025 8:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: 16, or 16E? If Siri could close an app as well as open it, then I might use the open app feature. I do use Siri sometimes if I want to send a very quick text message. Sent from my quantum phone!! > On Mar 1, 2025, at 7:08 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Josh, I am exactly like you are about all that. I never think to have Siri > open an app. It annoys me, though, when I ask Siri something, and she says > here's what I found on the weg, and half the time, I xan't find whatever she > found. > > Carolyn Arnold > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Joshua Hendrickson > Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2025 6:06 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: 16, or 16E? > > Personally I just learned the original gestures which work fine for me. I > never have Siri open apps when I can omen them myself and I know where the > app is either on my home page or on which of my three pages the app I want is > located. It is great the iPhone is so customizable. > > Sent from my quantum phone!! > > > On Mar 1, 2025, at 4:53 PM, Barbara Stahl <stahlredstone.0...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > You can also create your own gesture, or assign a particular gesture for > going to the home screen, or opening the app switcher I prefer that method > for these functions there was an email thread about how to do this a while > back. I copied the method used in the email thread and use swipe left with > two fingers two for the app, switcher and swipe right with two fingers to > access the home screen. > > > On Mar 1, 2025, at 12:22 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone > <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > > > > Marta, Thanks for the kind words on my web site,. > > > > I honestly don't miss the home button. > > The gesture for the App Switcher or going home is not that hard with a > little practice. > > You can use the side button for Siri much like the home button. I > pretty much only use the app switcher now to close out apps, unless I am > somewhere that asking Siri to open an app is not appropriate. > > I mostly tell Siri to open x y z app. > > HTH, > > > > > > Richard, USA, > > "When you come to the edge of all the light you know and are about to > step off into the darkness of the unknown, faith is knowing one of two things > will happen: there will be something solid to stand on or you will be taught > how to fly." > > -- Barbara J. Winter. > > > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ <https://www.turner42.com/> > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Marda > Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2025 9:02 AM > To: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: 16, or 16E? > > > > Hi, Richard. Thanks for adding that info. That was one of my > initial feelings of frustration because you can do a lot of those things > quickly with the home button (accessibility shortcut, tripple click, app > switcher double click, Siri, hold, wait for the sound (or just hold for the > appropriate time if you can't hear the sound which because of my hearing loss > I sometimes can't) and it seemed like taking away the home button and > assigning its functions to several different things was making things > needlessly complicated. But then, what do I know? I don't know much about > tech and certainly am not a designer or programmer, just a lowly end user who > has gotten to like doing things a certain way but of course will adapt. > Thanks for as always being so helpful and thanks too for your website which I > have directed quite a few people too with happy results. > > Marda > > On 3/1/2025 10:00 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote: > > Hi Marta, > > Yes, I was just giving the default function not having read > through Scott's complete email comparing the 16e and 16. > > But, here is all the things you can set the Action button to: > > Silent/Ring mode > > Focus > > Camera, Open the camera app > > Flashlight > > Voice Memo > > Recognize Music > > Magnifier > > Controls. )the comment here says Quickly access your favorite > control.) > > Shortcuts, (which says Open an app or run your favorite shortcut.) > > Accessibility, (quickly use an accessibility feature.) > > No Action. > > I added the explanation where I thought it was useful in that > list. Note you can only have the action button do any one of those things. > > > > I have a demo that I recorded on my web site for the gestures to > try and help folks learn how these work. > > It is a few headings down on the demos page, link below. > > https://www.turner42.com/DEMOS.html > > > > HTH, > > > > Richard, USA > > "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- > John Wesley > > > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com > > > > (sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c > > > > > > On Mar 1, 2025, at 12:03 AM, Marda <marda.pian...@gmail.com> > <mailto:marda.pian...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > But the action button can also be set up to do other things as > well, right? So if you choose not to have it function as a toggle between > ring and silent modes you can have it do shortcuts like the accessibility > shortcut or you can have it do other things like turn on a specific focus > mode, turn airplane mode on or off or things like that. Not sure if you can > make the action button put you in the app switcher or not and I don't think > you can do things like you can with the home button like double click it for > the app switcher and tripple click it for the accessibility shortcut and if > you don't use it to toggle between silent and ring mode I'm not sure how > you'd easily do that so it doesn't seem as though it's as versatile as the > home button unless there's something I'm missing which seems sad to me. I'm > not sure I understand the rationale of getting rid of a button that has > multiple functions with one that can only do one thing, can't be double or > tripple clicked. I'm not sure about face ID either. I've heard from some > people that, for instance, if they wear a mask (which is sometimes still > required in certain situations) it has trouble. Also, can it really tell the > difference with people like identical twins i.e. will an identical twin get > access to your iPhone because it can't tell the difference in the face IDs? > > Marda and so on. > > On 2/28/2025 8:23 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote: > > The Action button replaces the switch above the volume > buttons on the left side. Instead of a lever, it is a button that if you hold > it in it will toggle from ring mode to silent mode. If you tap it, it tells > you which mode you are in. > > The action button is about half the length of the volume > button. > > The button on the right is the power/lock button, and if > held in, you can talk to Siri. > > The 16 models that came out last fall also have a camera > button on the lower half of the right side that can be used to take pictures > and do other camera controls. It also works with Be My Eyes for taking a > picture. > > The 16e does not have that camera button. > > HTH, > > > > Richard, USA > > "While striving for perfection, let us do what is > possible." -- John Wesley > > > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com > > > > (sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c > > > > > > On Feb 28, 2025, at 5:17 PM, 'Curtis Delzer' via VIPhone > <viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > I did not see this, thank you! > > I do not know what that "action" button is, the right hand > button on the phone for locking, etc? thanks > > On 2/28/2025 2:48 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote: > > I don't know if you saw the article from AppleVis.com, but > here it is. > > > > Hands On with the iPhone 16e: My First Impressions > > > > > > iPhone 16e availability in the U.S. is less than 24 hours > away, and ahead of the launch, I was provided a unit for review. > > Going into today, I was looking forward to sharing the > iPhone 16e with our community, especially as there has been much anticipation > and excitement on AppleVis surrounding this phone in particular. Unboxing > podcasts are a lot of fun, especially when the recording goes well. And I am > of the opinion that as Apple no longer sells a device with a Home Button, we > should be doing everything possible to ease the transition for people who are > still on older devices for whatever reason. It’s a bigger deal than you might > think, especially for the everyday blind, DeafBlind, or low vision user who > really relies on that Home Button as an anchor. > > All in all, there is a lot to talk about with the iPhone > 16e, but I wasn’t going to say any of it today. But that changed when I > actually experienced the iPhone 16e for myself. > > The iPhone 16e is Apple’s most affordable phone at US$599, > and, to be honest, I was disappointed by the price when it was announced. I > see the iPhone 16e as the iPhone for the everyday person, the person who just > needs an iPhone to do the basic things. And I really was hoping Apple could > get the price down to something under $500 and make that phone available to > as many people as possible. On the other hand, the iPhone 16e has a lot of > advanced tech (a current-generation A18 processor, Apple Intelligence, the > Action Button, an all-new Apple-designed modem, just to name four); so the > starting price is more understandable when you consider what all you’re > getting. > > Concerns about price aside, I tried to approach reviewing > the iPhone 16e with an open mind. I know what I like in an iPhone, and I also > know that the iPhone 16e is meant for a different type of user than me. And > yet, I interact with people from all walks of life; and for many of them, all > they want is a basic iPhone. So the iPhone 16e interested me at first for > those reasons: Is this the modern iPhone for everyone? > > As interested as I first was in the iPhone 16e, I never > expected that I would personally ‘like’ it—especially after only a few hours > with the device. But I do like it—a lot. > > Generally, I gravitate towards the bigger phones for their > battery, speaker, and bigger ‘feel’. ‘Bigger’ has always meant ‘better’ to > me. But the iPhone 16e challenges my assumptions in a pretty big way, no pun > intended. Contrary to my expectations, I actually really like the thing. I > like the way it feels in my hand. Picking it up, holding it while on the > phone, even sending messages with Braille Screen Input—it feels great. And > this was unexpected to say the least. > > Perhaps just as unexpected and even better than the > device’s ‘hand-feel’, are the speakers. Yes, I said ‘speakers’ because both > the bottom speaker and earpiece speaker are noticeably better than my > $600-more-expensive iPhone 16 Pro Max. In my review of the iPhone 16 Pro Max, > I shared about issues with the quality of sound output from the speakers. > Other members of the community have experienced similar issues. > > I am happy to report that the sound on the iPhone 16e has > none of these issues. At higher volume, the iPhone 16e puts out a lot of bass > for its size. (I remember my iPhone 15 Pro being similar.) But, unlike my > personal iPhone 16 Pro Max, the iPhone 16e better maintains this bass at > lower volumes. There is none of the dramatic fluctuation in bass with volume > adjustment that I see on my iPhone 16 Pro Max, and this is a subtle—but > nevertheless huge—improvement. > > And it is not just the bottom speaker that is improved; > the earpiece speaker has more bass as well, making the sound fuller and more > natural. I was on a FaceTime audio call shortly after setting up the iPhone > 16e, and I actually called the person back from my iPhone 16 Pro Max to be > sure I wasn’t just imagining things. I wasn’t—the speaker quality is just > better. If the speakers are important to you, you will really like the iPhone > 16e. > > The iPhone 16e has a 6.1-inch display, similar to recent > smaller iPhones. If you have seen an iPhone 13 or 14, or their Pro > counterparts, for example, the iPhone 16e’s size will be familiar to you. The > iPhone 16e has the same A18 series processor as other iPhone 16 devices, and > VoiceOver performance is as snappy as on my iPhone 16 Pro Max. > > In the iPhone 16e, Apple has tried to make the iPhone 16 > experience available to more people at a lower price. The device has a lot to > like: the same series of processor, support for Apple Intelligence, and other > key features of the iPhone 16 family—even an Action Button. But there is no > getting around the fact that the iPhone 16e’s starting price tag of US$599 is > still way out of reach of a lot of people, which is both unfortunate and also > a lost market opportunity for Apple. Nevertheless, everything I have seen > with the iPhone 16e so far suggests that Apple may very well have a hit on > its hands. > > Watch this space. > > > > Article from: > > > https://applevis.com/blog/hands-iphone-16e-my-first-impressions > > > > > > Richard, USA > > "While striving for perfection, let us do what is > possible." -- John Wesley > > > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com > > > > (sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c > > > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of > the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of > this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please > contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list > itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be > reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . 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