Josh, I am exactly like you are about all that. I never think to have Siri open an app. It annoys me, though, when I ask Siri something, and she says here's what I found on the weg, and half the time, I xan't find whatever she found.
Carolyn Arnold -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2025 6:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: 16, or 16E? Personally I just learned the original gestures which work fine for me. I never have Siri open apps when I can omen them myself and I know where the app is either on my home page or on which of my three pages the app I want is located. It is great the iPhone is so customizable. Sent from my quantum phone!! On Mar 1, 2025, at 4:53 PM, Barbara Stahl <stahlredstone.0...@gmail.com> wrote: You can also create your own gesture, or assign a particular gesture for going to the home screen, or opening the app switcher I prefer that method for these functions there was an email thread about how to do this a while back. I copied the method used in the email thread and use swipe left with two fingers two for the app, switcher and swipe right with two fingers to access the home screen. On Mar 1, 2025, at 12:22 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: Marta, Thanks for the kind words on my web site,. I honestly don't miss the home button. The gesture for the App Switcher or going home is not that hard with a little practice. You can use the side button for Siri much like the home button. I pretty much only use the app switcher now to close out apps, unless I am somewhere that asking Siri to open an app is not appropriate. I mostly tell Siri to open x y z app. HTH, Richard, USA, "When you come to the edge of all the light you know and are about to step off into the darkness of the unknown, faith is knowing one of two things will happen: there will be something solid to stand on or you will be taught how to fly." -- Barbara J. Winter. My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ <https://www.turner42.com/> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Marda Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2025 9:02 AM To: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 16, or 16E? Hi, Richard. Thanks for adding that info. That was one of my initial feelings of frustration because you can do a lot of those things quickly with the home button (accessibility shortcut, tripple click, app switcher double click, Siri, hold, wait for the sound (or just hold for the appropriate time if you can't hear the sound which because of my hearing loss I sometimes can't) and it seemed like taking away the home button and assigning its functions to several different things was making things needlessly complicated. But then, what do I know? I don't know much about tech and certainly am not a designer or programmer, just a lowly end user who has gotten to like doing things a certain way but of course will adapt. Thanks for as always being so helpful and thanks too for your website which I have directed quite a few people too with happy results. Marda On 3/1/2025 10:00 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote: Hi Marta, Yes, I was just giving the default function not having read through Scott's complete email comparing the 16e and 16. But, here is all the things you can set the Action button to: Silent/Ring mode Focus Camera, Open the camera app Flashlight Voice Memo Recognize Music Magnifier Controls. )the comment here says Quickly access your favorite control.) Shortcuts, (which says Open an app or run your favorite shortcut.) Accessibility, (quickly use an accessibility feature.) No Action. I added the explanation where I thought it was useful in that list. Note you can only have the action button do any one of those things. I have a demo that I recorded on my web site for the gestures to try and help folks learn how these work. It is a few headings down on the demos page, link below. https://www.turner42.com/DEMOS.html HTH, Richard, USA "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- John Wesley My web site: https://www.turner42.com (sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c On Mar 1, 2025, at 12:03 AM, Marda <marda.pian...@gmail.com> <mailto:marda.pian...@gmail.com> wrote: But the action button can also be set up to do other things as well, right? So if you choose not to have it function as a toggle between ring and silent modes you can have it do shortcuts like the accessibility shortcut or you can have it do other things like turn on a specific focus mode, turn airplane mode on or off or things like that. Not sure if you can make the action button put you in the app switcher or not and I don't think you can do things like you can with the home button like double click it for the app switcher and tripple click it for the accessibility shortcut and if you don't use it to toggle between silent and ring mode I'm not sure how you'd easily do that so it doesn't seem as though it's as versatile as the home button unless there's something I'm missing which seems sad to me. I'm not sure I understand the rationale of getting rid of a button that has multiple functions with one that can only do one thing, can't be double or tripple clicked. I'm not sure about face ID either. I've heard from some people that, for instance, if they wear a mask (which is sometimes still required in certain situations) it has trouble. Also, can it really tell the difference with people like identical twins i.e. will an identical twin get access to your iPhone because it can't tell the difference in the face IDs? Marda and so on. On 2/28/2025 8:23 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote: The Action button replaces the switch above the volume buttons on the left side. Instead of a lever, it is a button that if you hold it in it will toggle from ring mode to silent mode. If you tap it, it tells you which mode you are in. The action button is about half the length of the volume button. The button on the right is the power/lock button, and if held in, you can talk to Siri. The 16 models that came out last fall also have a camera button on the lower half of the right side that can be used to take pictures and do other camera controls. It also works with Be My Eyes for taking a picture. The 16e does not have that camera button. HTH, Richard, USA "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- John Wesley My web site: https://www.turner42.com (sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c On Feb 28, 2025, at 5:17 PM, 'Curtis Delzer' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: I did not see this, thank you! I do not know what that "action" button is, the right hand button on the phone for locking, etc? thanks On 2/28/2025 2:48 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote: I don't know if you saw the article from AppleVis.com, but here it is. Hands On with the iPhone 16e: My First Impressions iPhone 16e availability in the U.S. is less than 24 hours away, and ahead of the launch, I was provided a unit for review. Going into today, I was looking forward to sharing the iPhone 16e with our community, especially as there has been much anticipation and excitement on AppleVis surrounding this phone in particular. Unboxing podcasts are a lot of fun, especially when the recording goes well. And I am of the opinion that as Apple no longer sells a device with a Home Button, we should be doing everything possible to ease the transition for people who are still on older devices for whatever reason. It’s a bigger deal than you might think, especially for the everyday blind, DeafBlind, or low vision user who really relies on that Home Button as an anchor. All in all, there is a lot to talk about with the iPhone 16e, but I wasn’t going to say any of it today. But that changed when I actually experienced the iPhone 16e for myself. The iPhone 16e is Apple’s most affordable phone at US$599, and, to be honest, I was disappointed by the price when it was announced. I see the iPhone 16e as the iPhone for the everyday person, the person who just needs an iPhone to do the basic things. And I really was hoping Apple could get the price down to something under $500 and make that phone available to as many people as possible. On the other hand, the iPhone 16e has a lot of advanced tech (a current-generation A18 processor, Apple Intelligence, the Action Button, an all-new Apple-designed modem, just to name four); so the starting price is more understandable when you consider what all you’re getting. Concerns about price aside, I tried to approach reviewing the iPhone 16e with an open mind. I know what I like in an iPhone, and I also know that the iPhone 16e is meant for a different type of user than me. And yet, I interact with people from all walks of life; and for many of them, all they want is a basic iPhone. So the iPhone 16e interested me at first for those reasons: Is this the modern iPhone for everyone? As interested as I first was in the iPhone 16e, I never expected that I would personally ‘like’ it—especially after only a few hours with the device. But I do like it—a lot. Generally, I gravitate towards the bigger phones for their battery, speaker, and bigger ‘feel’. ‘Bigger’ has always meant ‘better’ to me. But the iPhone 16e challenges my assumptions in a pretty big way, no pun intended. Contrary to my expectations, I actually really like the thing. I like the way it feels in my hand. Picking it up, holding it while on the phone, even sending messages with Braille Screen Input—it feels great. And this was unexpected to say the least. Perhaps just as unexpected and even better than the device’s ‘hand-feel’, are the speakers. Yes, I said ‘speakers’ because both the bottom speaker and earpiece speaker are noticeably better than my $600-more-expensive iPhone 16 Pro Max. In my review of the iPhone 16 Pro Max, I shared about issues with the quality of sound output from the speakers. Other members of the community have experienced similar issues. I am happy to report that the sound on the iPhone 16e has none of these issues. At higher volume, the iPhone 16e puts out a lot of bass for its size. (I remember my iPhone 15 Pro being similar.) But, unlike my personal iPhone 16 Pro Max, the iPhone 16e better maintains this bass at lower volumes. There is none of the dramatic fluctuation in bass with volume adjustment that I see on my iPhone 16 Pro Max, and this is a subtle—but nevertheless huge—improvement. And it is not just the bottom speaker that is improved; the earpiece speaker has more bass as well, making the sound fuller and more natural. I was on a FaceTime audio call shortly after setting up the iPhone 16e, and I actually called the person back from my iPhone 16 Pro Max to be sure I wasn’t just imagining things. I wasn’t—the speaker quality is just better. If the speakers are important to you, you will really like the iPhone 16e. The iPhone 16e has a 6.1-inch display, similar to recent smaller iPhones. If you have seen an iPhone 13 or 14, or their Pro counterparts, for example, the iPhone 16e’s size will be familiar to you. The iPhone 16e has the same A18 series processor as other iPhone 16 devices, and VoiceOver performance is as snappy as on my iPhone 16 Pro Max. In the iPhone 16e, Apple has tried to make the iPhone 16 experience available to more people at a lower price. The device has a lot to like: the same series of processor, support for Apple Intelligence, and other key features of the iPhone 16 family—even an Action Button. But there is no getting around the fact that the iPhone 16e’s starting price tag of US$599 is still way out of reach of a lot of people, which is both unfortunate and also a lost market opportunity for Apple. Nevertheless, everything I have seen with the iPhone 16e so far suggests that Apple may very well have a hit on its hands. Watch this space. 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