The new SE will definitely not be small any more, of course we don't yet have 
the official announcement, but these days the rumours at this late stage are 
typically prety accurate and the fourth generation SE has I believe a 6.1 inch 
screen and will be basically the same size as an iPhone 14 or 15 and it will 
also no longer have a home button and Touch Id but use Face Id instead. One 
main difference is the single 48 MP camera, an iPhone 16 has a dual lens camera 
system and the 16 Pro has a triple lens system. It also sounds like it will not 
have the camera button, not sure as to whether the mute switch remains or will 
be replaced with a programmable button llike on the 16 and 16 Pro.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
danneyya...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2025 3:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone SE latest rumor

I’d thought a big draw for many re the SE was smaller size, but wonder if 
rumored newer one will be as small and does this smaller size result in less 
battery life.  I currently have a 12 mini and have had to have battery replaced.
Danney

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2025 6:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: iPhone SE latest rumor

That was how this thread started and nobody really answered it.

Essentially for a blind user not interested in taking pictures is there an 
advantage to the latest iPhone camera system that have Macro and telephoto 
capabilities, as these are not likely to be in a new lower cost  iPhone. Can an 
AIRA or Be My Eyes agent even take advantage of the multiple lenses on iPhones, 
or do these have to be controlled by the iPhone user.
Also, has anybody that has a iPhone PRO model regularly used the LIDAR 
functions to solve issues?
I am especially interested in anybody that got an iPhone 15 or 16  after having 
an iPhone SE if they felt the additional cost provided any useful features.


On Feb 14, 2025, at 2:15 PM, 
danneyya...@gmail.com<mailto:danneyya...@gmail.com> wrote:

So what does an IPhone 16 Pro have that this rumored SE4 have and why’s it so 
much less expensive?
Danney

From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2025 9:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: iPhone SE latest rumor

According to both ChatGPT and Copilot:
As of now, Apple CEO Tim Cook has not officially announced a new iPhone SE. 
However, he has teased an upcoming product launch scheduled for Wednesday, 
February 19, 2025. In a recent post on X (formerly Twitter), Cook stated, “Get 
ready to meet the newest member of the family,” accompanied by an Apple logo 
animation.   While the specific product has not been confirmed, industry 
analysts widely anticipate that this event will unveil the next-generation 
iPhone SE. Expected features for the new model include:
               •             A design similar to the iPhone 14, featuring a 
notched display and the removal of the home button in favor of Face ID.
               •             A larger 6.1-inch OLED screen, replacing the 
previous 4.7-inch display.
               •             Transition to a USB-C port, aligning with recent 
regulatory requirements.
               •             Introduction of a customizable Action button.
               •             An upgraded single rear camera with enhanced 
sensors.
               •             Internally, the device is expected to feature an 
A18 chip, 8GB of RAM, and Apple’s first in-house 5G modem, though it may not 
support mmWave 5G.
               •             The starting price is anticipated to be around 
$500, with 128GB of base storage.

There has been speculation about a potential rebranding to “iPhone 16E,” but it 
is more likely that the SE branding will continue.  Please note that these 
details are based on industry rumors and leaks, and the official specifications 
will be confirmed during Apple’s event on February 19.


Richard, USA
"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- John Wesley

My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/>

(sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c



On Feb 13, 2025, at 4:32 PM, Richard Turner 
<richardr_tur...@comcast.net<mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Where did Tim Cook ppost this?



Richard, USA,
"When you come to the edge of all the light you know and are about to step off 
into the darkness of the unknown, faith is knowing one of two things will 
happen: there will be something solid to stand on or you will be taught how to 
fly."
-- Barbara J. Winter.

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2025 4:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: iPhone SE latest rumor

Its coming next Wednesday Tim Cook posted about it.


Dennis Long
Sent from my iPhone 15 Pro Max



On Feb 13, 2025, at 7:18 PM, Michael Irons 
<theleo...@gmail.com<mailto:theleo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I never believe any rumors that come out and I am in agreement with what you 
all were saying in that talking about this stuff before it’s released and 
talking about when it is gonna be released as a total waste of time. I just 
knew that the iPhone SE four was going to be coming out and I wanted to make 
sure that I got a hold of an SE3 before the latest EC came out so I could have 
access and use the home button a bit longer. If you are wondering why I might 
want to do that that is because right now I’m just not able to face Face ID and 
deal with setting it up. It might put a frown on all of your faces, but I am 
just doing what I feel. I need to do regardless of what anyone thinks about it.
Sent from my iPhone



On Feb 13, 2025, at 4:25 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
I knew exactly what you meant, and did not miss the sarcasm. I suspect others 
did not either. I was just agreeing that all this bother about stuff before its 
released is kind of a waste of time.



Richard, USA
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(sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c




On Feb 13, 2025, at 2:21 PM, Alan Lemly 
<wale...@gmail.com<mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Richard,

That's exactly the point I was attempting to make but I guess my sarcasm was 
missed. Some on these lists seem overly concerned with promoting products and 
their supposed features before the products are even released. I was replying 
to one such post stating unequivocally that the SE fourth generation was being 
released on Tuesday February 11th.

Alan Lemly
Sent from my iPhone



On Feb 13, 2025, at 10:46 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

ON www.apple.com<http://www.apple.com/> there is no mention of an iPhone SE 4, 
the latest SE listed is the SE 3.
This is why I ignore rumors.
Just wait for Apple's official announcement.


Richard, USA,
"When you come to the edge of all the light you know and are about to step off 
into the darkness of the unknown, faith is knowing one of two things will 
happen: there will be something solid to stand on or you will be taught how to 
fly."
-- Barbara J. Winter.

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2025 8:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iPhone SE latest rumor

Hi Dennis,

I must have missed Apple's announcement about the release of the iPhone SE 4th 
generation. Perhaps you could share it with the list or is it possible that 
Mark Gurman was wrong?

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2025 2:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iPhone SE latest rumor

It will be released Tuesday.  Mark Gurman isn't usually wrong.  Moreover these 
reports aren't gonna say something that critical and be wrong.  So watch 
Apple.com on Tuesday.

-----Original Message-----
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<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2025 5:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iPhone SE latest rumor

I am considering an SE4 if they actually come out.

Carolyn Arnold
Carolyn ArnoldCarolyn Arnold

Carolyn Arnold


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Penny Reeder
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I have been waiting for the SE, too -- mostly because of my hope that its 
smaller size will be a more comfortable fit for my hand than the huge 16. I am 
worried though that i shouldn't wait a lot longer to replaze my XR, because of 
anticipated tarrif-related higher cost. Penny Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 8, 2025, at 10:34 AM, Jonathan Cohn 
<jccacc...@gmail.com<mailto:jccacc...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I heard a rumor today that the iPhone SE update will come out next week with 
no press release.
Obviously just a rumor, but I have been holding on to my slowish iPhone SE 
second generation so that I can  have a full choice of latest phones.
Is there a blind users buyers guide to the iPhones to help decide  if:
1. LIDAR add aa real advantage.
2. Do newer cameras improve OCR
3. Do newer camera help with Be My Eyes and AIRA?
4. Should I get a cheaper phone and spend the money saved on a pair of smart 
glasses?

I know folks love their meta glasses, but I would rather pay a little more and 
not  have Meta capturing my life, but alternatives still appear to be in the 
rumor stage.
Obviously, until the specifications of the SE are out no decision can be made.
My main complaints with my current phone is it takes about 5 seconds for a Siri 
response and I don’t believe it is my network, and 40 minutes of walking 
navigation takes about 60% of my battery life.
Warmly,
Jonathan

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