All the rumors say the new SE 4 if it comes out, will be the size of the 14, which is a 6.1 diagonal screen where I think the SE 3 and before are 4.7? So, no, not smaller.
And, it wil not have a home button, again, if the rumors are true. Just wait for Apple to announce it. Richard, USA, "When you come to the edge of all the light you know and are about to step off into the darkness of the unknown, faith is knowing one of two things will happen: there will be something solid to stand on or you will be taught how to fly." -- Barbara J. Winter. My web site: <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/ From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of danneyya...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, February 14, 2025 3:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iPhone SE latest rumor I’d thought a big draw for many re the SE was smaller size, but wonder if rumored newer one will be as small and does this smaller size result in less battery life. I currently have a 12 mini and have had to have battery replaced. Danney From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn Sent: Friday, February 14, 2025 6:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: iPhone SE latest rumor That was how this thread started and nobody really answered it. Essentially for a blind user not interested in taking pictures is there an advantage to the latest iPhone camera system that have Macro and telephoto capabilities, as these are not likely to be in a new lower cost iPhone. Can an AIRA or Be My Eyes agent even take advantage of the multiple lenses on iPhones, or do these have to be controlled by the iPhone user. Also, has anybody that has a iPhone PRO model regularly used the LIDAR functions to solve issues? I am especially interested in anybody that got an iPhone 15 or 16 after having an iPhone SE if they felt the additional cost provided any useful features. On Feb 14, 2025, at 2:15 PM, danneyya...@gmail.com <mailto:danneyya...@gmail.com> wrote: So what does an IPhone 16 Pro have that this rumored SE4 have and why’s it so much less expensive? Danney From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2025 9:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: iPhone SE latest rumor According to both ChatGPT and Copilot: As of now, Apple CEO Tim Cook has not officially announced a new iPhone SE. However, he has teased an upcoming product launch scheduled for Wednesday, February 19, 2025. In a recent post on X (formerly Twitter), Cook stated, “Get ready to meet the newest member of the family,” accompanied by an Apple logo animation.  While the specific product has not been confirmed, industry analysts widely anticipate that this event will unveil the next-generation iPhone SE. Expected features for the new model include: • A design similar to the iPhone 14, featuring a notched display and the removal of the home button in favor of Face ID. • A larger 6.1-inch OLED screen, replacing the previous 4.7-inch display. • Transition to a USB-C port, aligning with recent regulatory requirements. • Introduction of a customizable Action button. • An upgraded single rear camera with enhanced sensors. • Internally, the device is expected to feature an A18 chip, 8GB of RAM, and Apple’s first in-house 5G modem, though it may not support mmWave 5G. • The starting price is anticipated to be around $500, with 128GB of base storage. There has been speculation about a potential rebranding to “iPhone 16E,” but it is more likely that the SE branding will continue.  Please note that these details are based on industry rumors and leaks, and the official specifications will be confirmed during Apple’s event on February 19. Richard, USA "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- John Wesley My web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com/> (sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c On Feb 13, 2025, at 4:32 PM, Richard Turner <richardr_tur...@comcast.net <mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote: Where did Tim Cook ppost this? Richard, USA, "When you come to the edge of all the light you know and are about to step off into the darkness of the unknown, faith is knowing one of two things will happen: there will be something solid to stand on or you will be taught how to fly." -- Barbara J. Winter. My web site: <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/ From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2025 4:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: iPhone SE latest rumor Its coming next Wednesday Tim Cook posted about it. Dennis Long Sent from my iPhone 15 Pro Max On Feb 13, 2025, at 7:18 PM, Michael Irons <theleo...@gmail.com <mailto:theleo...@gmail.com> > wrote: I never believe any rumors that come out and I am in agreement with what you all were saying in that talking about this stuff before it’s released and talking about when it is gonna be released as a total waste of time. I just knew that the iPhone SE four was going to be coming out and I wanted to make sure that I got a hold of an SE3 before the latest EC came out so I could have access and use the home button a bit longer. If you are wondering why I might want to do that that is because right now I’m just not able to face Face ID and deal with setting it up. It might put a frown on all of your faces, but I am just doing what I feel. I need to do regardless of what anyone thinks about it. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2025, at 4:25 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote: I knew exactly what you meant, and did not miss the sarcasm. I suspect others did not either. I was just agreeing that all this bother about stuff before its released is kind of a waste of time. Richard, USA "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- John Wesley My web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com/> (sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c On Feb 13, 2025, at 2:21 PM, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com <mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote: Richard, That's exactly the point I was attempting to make but I guess my sarcasm was missed. Some on these lists seem overly concerned with promoting products and their supposed features before the products are even released. I was replying to one such post stating unequivocally that the SE fourth generation was being released on Tuesday February 11th. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2025, at 10:46 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote: ON www.apple.com <http://www.apple.com/> there is no mention of an iPhone SE 4, the latest SE listed is the SE 3. This is why I ignore rumors. Just wait for Apple's official announcement. Richard, USA, "When you come to the edge of all the light you know and are about to step off into the darkness of the unknown, faith is knowing one of two things will happen: there will be something solid to stand on or you will be taught how to fly." -- Barbara J. Winter. My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2025 8:38 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: iPhone SE latest rumor Hi Dennis, I must have missed Apple's announcement about the release of the iPhone SE 4th generation. Perhaps you could share it with the list or is it possible that Mark Gurman was wrong? Alan Lemly -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2025 2:11 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: iPhone SE latest rumor It will be released Tuesday. Mark Gurman isn't usually wrong. Moreover these reports aren't gonna say something that critical and be wrong. So watch Apple.com on Tuesday. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2025 5:29 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: iPhone SE latest rumor I am considering an SE4 if they actually come out. Carolyn Arnold Carolyn ArnoldCarolyn Arnold Carolyn Arnold -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Penny Reeder Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2025 10:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: iPhone SE latest rumor I have been waiting for the SE, too -- mostly because of my hope that its smaller size will be a more comfortable fit for my hand than the huge 16. I am worried though that i shouldn't wait a lot longer to replaze my XR, because of anticipated tarrif-related higher cost. Penny Sent from my iPhone On Feb 8, 2025, at 10:34 AM, Jonathan Cohn <jccacc...@gmail.com <mailto:jccacc...@gmail.com> > wrote: I heard a rumor today that the iPhone SE update will come out next week with no press release. Obviously just a rumor, but I have been holding on to my slowish iPhone SE second generation so that I can have a full choice of latest phones. Is there a blind users buyers guide to the iPhones to help decide if: 1. LIDAR add aa real advantage. 2. Do newer cameras improve OCR 3. Do newer camera help with Be My Eyes and AIRA? 4. Should I get a cheaper phone and spend the money saved on a pair of smart glasses? I know folks love their meta glasses, but I would rather pay a little more and not have Meta capturing my life, but alternatives still appear to be in the rumor stage. 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